Do Relic, Mythic, and Empyrean staves lack utility?

Holy shit you are thick, The 'other' buffing/healing jobs aren't meleeing if it's a detriment to their roles, yet you claim your melee is somehow worthwhile enough that you meleeing the mob is more worthwhile than you staying out of range and not eating resources from taking TP moves/spells/being in range of Aoe debuffs versus staying back and supporting/healing the party. No one cares if you melee weak mobs, knock yourself out.

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Originally Posted by Razushu

I'm sure this isn't an attack on SMN melee specifically, If you were SCH, BLM etc. he'd be making the same point

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No one is talking about your playstyle. Wonder why.

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Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz

Holy shit you are thick, The 'other' buffing/healing jobs aren't meleeing if it's a detriment to their roles, yet you claim your melee is somehow worthwhile enough that you meleeing the mob is more worthwhile than you staying out of range and not eating resources from taking TP moves/spells/being in range of Aoe debuffs versus staying back and supporting/healing the party. No one cares if you melee weak mobs, knock yourself out.

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The party setup was implicitly stated: SMN WAR DNC BRD WHM ???

The target was stated too.

At least 3 jobs and a pet are meleeing. This is not a dangerous mob.

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Originally Posted by Dallas

No one is talking about your playstyle. Wonder why.

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Because it's an accepted and useful playstyle that most of the game population understand nowadays. Theres really no need to talk about it kinda like BLM nuking or WHM healing

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Originally Posted by Dallas

No one is talking about your playstyle. Wonder why.

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Nobody was stating that they excel at something where it was obvious they weren't, and then calling others lazy/gimp/weak fro calling them out on the truth.

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Originally Posted by Razushu

Because it's an accepted and useful playstyle that most of the game population understand nowadays. Theres really no need to talk about it kinda like BLM nuking or WHM healing

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Did Byrth say "buff cycle from SMN" in his list of BG-approved SMN uses? Nope, most of the game population does not recognize you like a BLM nuking or WHM healing.

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No one is talking about your playstyle. Wonder why.

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Hint: He's not retarded.

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Did Byrth say "buff cycle from SMN" in his list of BG-approved SMN uses? Nope, most of the game population does not recognize you like a BLM nuking or WHM healing.

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There are only 6 slots in a party, and 3 parties in an alliance. SMN has to earn it's spot over other jobs. It's clearly not a good DD, and aside from a few situational buffs it's not good at party support, either. If only there weren't better strategies out there, maybe SMN would finally get some recognition!

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Originally Posted by Dallas

Did Byrth say "buff cycle from SMN" in his list of BG-approved SMN uses? Nope, most of the game population does not recognize you like a BLM nuking or WHM healing.

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[sarcasm\Because BG = most of the game[/sarcasm]

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Originally Posted by Dallas

Did Byrth say "buff cycle from SMN" in his list of BG-approved SMN uses? Nope, most of the game population does not recognize you like a BLM nuking or WHM healing.

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I said MOST. By my own experience having never once been told to heal or GTFO tells me you're wrong. Even in pick ups I find myself put in a party that will benefit much from my buffs so everyone I encounter seems to know of SMN support and its uses or this wouldn't be the case.

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Originally Posted by TybudX

Hint: He's not retarded.

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If only 100 out of 400 damage is attributable to an unhasted avatar, melee SMN is the best playstyle for SMN by miles.

Raz, you begged to have a number. You have one. You are 1/10th a WAR.