ATTN: Dev/Comm. Rep -Relic & Mythic Weapons Reborn {Yes, Please}- レリックとミシックの強化

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Originally Posted by Sama

Telling you what atmas I used simply because I try to avoid people like you making assumptions that I had mage atma. I'm just letting people know doesn't mean this is the best and all I wanted it is to have a SS showing how low relic and go. You may be very good at atma combination I don't know but I'm not here to dealt with that. Relic owner (including me) just want SE to give us continuous response, they don't have to, but since they made this forum, we will continue to ask.

If you people got a problem you can leave, this thread is for relic anyways and it's not a place for you to judge and telling others how good you are.

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If you're not sure how to optimize your relic's WS damage and can't figure out when you only land the off-hand hit then it doesn't matter sense to go through the effort of upgrading two relics if you're unware of their potential. You seemed to get over defensive about Didgist's comment about gilbuyers and botters, which leads us to the conclusion: You bought your account. Whether this is true or not your still one of the many players that make relic users look terrible.

As much as I appreciate the bumps, once again I ask to stay on topic by either expression of concern on development team follow up on their March announcement on planned relic and mythic weapon adjustments or sharing ideas on how to improve the balance situation.

If you do not support or am annoyed at addressing of these concerns which I apologize, I ask you please not to participate. The March announcement was very clear:

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Gildrein 03-25-2011 07:08 AM
We are aware that there currently exists a major difference between the strength of Empyrean weapons and that of Relic and Mythic weapons.

In regards to that balance issue, we are planning to make adjustments. We plan to create a higher level of balance by strengthening both Relic and Mythic weapons instead of simply weakening Empyrean weapons.

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So arguing over the validity if this issue should be addressed is pointless as the development team had already responded confirming recognition of the issue and that adjustments will be made. Please also do not turn this into a flame thread. It's saddening that while there's not much progress on community reps & development team responding on providing an update on planned date of implementation, that fellow posters are arguing and making assumptions of each others, calling names etc; it just turns out as a comedy show for SE associates to laugh at. With all respect my only intention is to remind whenever there are dev tracker posts, yet there is overlooking of status inquiry on this thread. Once again if any fellow players are annoyed by my impatience please excuse me ^^ /bow

Are you christian?

take your stupid elsewhere plz.

Have you seen this though?
http://www.speroforum.com/a/55122/Li...-in-New-Mexico

Kiba I am in agreement with you, but these are forums. We can ask those trolls to leave but do you think they will.

Please Devs, come in and say "We are still working on updating Relics" so they will drop it for awhile!

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Originally Posted by Unctgtg

Kiba I am in agreement with you, but these are forums. We can ask those trolls to leave but do you think they will.

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This thread wouldn't exist for the relics/mythics that needed to be buffed prior to the addition of Empyrean weapons since the previous imbalance was apparently acceptable.

If this was just a relic/mythic buff thread I'm sure there wouldn't be as much opposition. Instead, the thread is basically, "My weapon is weaker than an Empyrean now, plz buff mine" pretending to be for a much nobler cause.

You're lucky that SE decided to buff the weapons the first time since other games would have left them behind.

So did you see the latest game of thrones?

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Originally Posted by Azagthoth

This thread wouldn't exist for the relics/mythics that needed to be buffed prior to the addition of Empyrean weapons since the previous imbalance was apparently acceptable.

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Nope. Over the years there have been numerous complaints over the weakness of final heaven, blade: metsu, tachi:kaiten, metatron torment, not to mention complaints over the relic staff, club, axe and great sword, plus obviously most of the mythics for cost and performance. SE created this forum for discussion and it's weak to suggest that there were no complaints prior to the forum or empys.

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Originally Posted by Azagthoth

If this was just a relic/mythic buff thread I'm sure there wouldn't be as much opposition. Instead, the thread is basically, "My weapon is weaker than an Empyrean now, plz buff mine" pretending to be for a much nobler cause.

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I'm sorry, but as I said above there were tons of complaints. The creation of over powered, painfully easy weapons to obtain exacerbated the above complaints: they did not create them. Moreover, what is it you're thinking: relic and mythic owners are supposed to pretend like empy's don't exist. How silly would that be: "Oh SE we want you to buff our weapons by 10%!" (although we know that MUCH easier to get weapons out damage us by 40%.)

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Originally Posted by Azagthoth

You're lucky that SE decided to buff the weapons the first time since other games would have left them behind.

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Relevant? Who cares about other games? This forum is for FFXI, not other games. Stay on task. Do you think pup, cor, sch, dnc, bst, rng, whm, smn, and drg are "lucky" they got buffs just because in some games, certain jobs become obsolete? Do you think we are all lucky we got expansions because some games don't?

Think about? Customers have issues: SE has to decide if they want to accommodate them or possibly insult customers. Sure, they need to do this in the larger context of the game, but that still has to looked at.

This isn't luck! It's honest concern from customers over an issue that SE we think takes seriously. The worst way that SE could have replied was: "Hey you're lucky we even let you upgrade at all."

Luckily you aren't on their team. :o No disrespect intended. I've read many of your posts and agreed with many.