Haste and You... A guide to the misinformed.

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Originally Posted by Leonlionheart

SO in terms that the average player can understand:

Haste > all

stop being stupid and using 24% haste with perle hands/aurore hands when you can cap it with dusk.

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i'll go further:
stop being stupid and using 25% showned haste with perle hands/aurore hands when you can true cap it with dusk. (haste gear value being a proximation from /1024 values you 're not really capped when you gear show 25)

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Originally Posted by hiko

i'll go further:
stop being stupid and using 25% showned haste with perle hands/aurore hands when you can true cap it with dusk. (haste gear value being a proximation from /1024 values you 're not really capped when you gear show 25)

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Depends on the gear actually. Some gear even gives more than it says due to rounding deviations.

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Originally Posted by Leonlionheart

SO in terms that the average player can understand:

Haste > all

stop being stupid and using 24% haste with perle hands/aurore hands when you can cap it with dusk.

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I'll never fault someone for foregoing Dusk hands for the alternatives that don't decrease movement speed.

Sure, you can use certain processes to get around that problem but really if they're 1% off on Haste, I could care less.

ITT, people min/maxing in abyssea. Just brew it.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

ITT, people min/maxing in abyssea. Just brew it.

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Leave it to the guy who full times full usukane on MNK to say improving your gear is pointless. lol

I would just like to thank the OP for some extremely helpful information. I am no math whiz, but you made it easy to understand. :)

I'm really sorry if this has already been posted, but I only just saw the thread and got as far as the first 8 pages of flaming Naturebeckles and gave up reading.

OP states 80% haste is the maximum delay for attack rounds, but does this include dual wield, or can you get 80% haste and then Dual Wield on top of that?

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Originally Posted by Babekeke

I'm really sorry if this has already been posted, but I only just saw the thread and got as far as the first 8 pages of flaming Naturebeckles and gave up reading.

OP states 80% haste is the maximum delay for attack rounds, but does this include dual wield, or can you get 80% haste and then Dual Wield on top of that?

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It is the total delay reduction cap, so it includes Dual Wield, Martial Arts, and gear with -Delay % on it.

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Originally Posted by Byrth

It is the total delay reduction cap, so it includes Dual Wield, Martial Arts, and gear with -Delay % on it.

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So if I have this right, according to the OP:

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52.5% - 111 ---------- Gear + Haste + Victory March

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+DW3 from nin sub = 77.5%
+Suppanomimi or Raider's Boomerang or other DW+3%+ gear = attack speed cap and no need for a 2nd march or haste samba?

That's quite interesting if it's the case, and useful to know when I play brd if I'm just with a thf, nin, dnc, mnk party.

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Originally Posted by Babekeke

So if I have this right, according to the OP:


+DW3 from nin sub = 77.5%
+Suppanomimi or Raider's Boomerang or other DW+3%+ gear = attack speed cap and no need for a 2nd march or haste samba?

That's quite interesting if it's the case, and useful to know when I play brd if I'm just with a thf, nin, dnc, mnk party.

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no because haste and dual wield are not aditive but multiplicative