[Suggestion] Paid Race Change Program.

What? Who dug this thread back up? >.<

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Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji

What? Who dug this thread back up? >.<

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Dunno but I'm glad they did. It is more likely to get implemented if it is shown to be a consistently popular request.

I would also like to say that if the gender/race specific equipment really is the reason why we can't change, I personally would be entirely fine with having to re-do the quests that grant these pieces of equipment.

Other than the RSE chest quest, I can't think of any quests that give race/gender specific gear. I also can't think of any questlines where your gender in an earlier quest changed the rewards of one of the later quests. Besides, RSE gear isn't even exclusive. You could just sell your Mithra RSE on the AH and buy new Galka RSE (fictional example, this will of course never happen).

Even though my thread's been dead for a while now and it was just necro-bumped, I'm absolutely glad that someone performed a search on the forums about this cause ! :p

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Originally Posted by Mirage

I would also like to say that if the gender/race specific equipment really is the reason why we can't change, I personally would be entirely fine with having to re-do the quests that grant these pieces of equipment.

Other than the RSE chest quest, I can't think of any quests that give race/gender specific gear. I also can't think of any questlines where your gender in an earlier quest changed the rewards of one of the later quests. Besides, RSE gear isn't even exclusive. You could just sell your Mithra RSE on the AH and buy new Galka RSE (fictional example, this will of course never happen).

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They could also implement an NPC that changes one RSE to another. Not like it'll be game breaking since it's bloody RSE.

If they're worried about "balance" then they could make it so that the player performing the race change has an key item that is used up on use when talking to said NPC when changing one races RSE to another. i.e. Mithra RSE -> Galka RSE
This key item would then be obtained when/if the player changes race again.

I know in WoW when you change race your race specific mounts and faction levels are changed automatically by the system to the corresponding mount/faction for your new race. There is no gender specific gear that I know of.

I wouldn't think it impossible for SE to set up something similar where any gender/race specific gear or KIs are automatically changed.

I don't know why SE would bother to think we'd care about old outdated RSE over a chance to change our race/sex/looks

Simple suggestion, add a cosmetics npc or whatever barber whatever you needa call it person somewhere in game, make buyable changes to appearances that you can only alter say once a month for x amount of Gil. And race could be changed via this npc once every three months to whatever SE chooses for x amount of Gil. This isn't remotely difficult go implement and I'm sure a lot of do not care about RSE that badly, simple adds like this are nice and I'd love something like this to be added, I'd care not to restart to be a different race/look considering the gear I have and time spent. Trust me SE small changes like this that we scream about is worth trying.

Not to mention, this sort of feature has come sort of an industry standard.

I must say, it is very nice that new positive posts are spawning, because when I started this thread, a year or something more ago, very few were okay with the suggestion I made.

In fact there were more bashing posts than actual contributions, since apparently the biggest problem with it was the fact that the change would've been "game-breaking" according to the majority of the posts that have been against this suggestion.

I won't say how they should be doing it in detail, however looking at how the things are now, if we can switch to a different server through the SE Account Management System, I could very well say they allow us to do it from there as well, without having to implement a feature in game such as a barber NPC or alter the graphics and whatnot that would so "drastically" alter the game...(Playstation 2, sigh).

From your FFXI Options Panel, let us select the "Character Recustomization", allow us to "check boxes" according to which kind of race/gender/face we desire and then press "Confirm". Race swap isn't mandatory since as I said, boxes checking would allow you to skip the Race Change option.

Once more, there would be no real need to tweak the system and implement a visually entertaining 3D race/gender/face creation screen with the ONLY purpose of letting us re-customize our hero...since IF they won't update the models, that is pretty much how they are going to stay, and we pretty much know, consequently, how they look like in game.

Also considering that what we saw in the character creation 10 years ago wasn't AT ALL what they ended up looking like in the actual game EITHER WAY, so no big loss in having your character wiggle their arms in a 3D environment in a fluid way, if they will be the way they are right now the game, at the end of the eye candy presentation.

The payment is processed and next time you log in, just as when you change servers, your character will be in his/her new model of your choice.

Cannot think of anything better. (For now.)

I disagree with changing your race, BUT I totally support the ability to change your character's hair style and facial features. Changing race and sex is over the top, but for someone that has changed his views on how his character looks now vs how it looked then, I would definitely change somethings, but I wouldn't make a new character after putting in 10 years of my life into Scuro. Changing races doesn't seem like a good idea because people would abuse it to change their race to that which will benefit their class or w/e, and in the realism of the game just doesn't come out well, the same with sex changes. Yet I full well support hair and facial changes. Even if I have to pay for it like when one wants to server transfer, I would gladly throw down a 10 or a 20 to alter my character's physical appearance again.

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Originally Posted by Scuro

Changing races doesn't seem like a good idea because people would abuse it to change their race to that which will benefit their class or w/e, and in the realism of the game just doesn't come out well, the same with sex changes.

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Considering nowadays a Galka BLM can nuke as big as a Taru and an Taru WAR can deal as much damage as an Elvaan/Galka one, because the stats difference mean not as much as they did, when the cap was 75, I cannot see your point.

Assuming that even if they take in consideration the Race Change, I'm sure they'd apply a "cooldown" to it just like Server Transfer, of 90 days, which would prevent you from race change-exploiting that easily. After all they apply the same cooldowns in WoW Paid Services and some other games.
And...well about the sex change, people are free to do whatever they are pleased with in real life, can't see why not in a virtual 3D environment.

It's not going to affect you, me, him, her or the Manthra at the other side of the street, if you're concerned about guys going girls to exploit gamers for gil and equipment, it's happened before and it will keep happening.
Same goes with identity wipes if you have a bad reputation in your server, you can always delete your character, clean your friend list, create a placeholder character with the same name, use the Character Reactivation Service, have your deleted character restored and since there will be a name conflict, you will be forced to change it to another name.

So in other words, if you want an Identity Wipe, it is already possible, it already happens, without even changing servers.
Ethics, if it's that what you're suggesting with your answer...even if enforced by Devs and Producers, in MMOs..do not exist. Knowing SE wants possibly your blood other than just your money...paying for a Race/Gender/Face Change, is probably a very efficient way for them to make extra money and keep pleased a decent amount of players that were not exactly satisfied.

But yeah..."It's over the top".

:p

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Originally Posted by Scuro

Changing races doesn't seem like a good idea because people would abuse it to change their race to that which will benefit their class or w/e,

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So, what? If that's how they want to play the game it's not our place to judge. I don't really see how that's "abuse" of anything except their disposable income, but that's none of my business.

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and in the realism of the game just doesn't come out well, the same with sex changes.

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Just look at it as a magical retcon. Once you change your race and/or gender, to the rest of the world that's what you've always been. It's not much different than when you change nations and "your" (aka. everyone but you) memories are sealed. The game world seems to adjust itself accordingly. Your new nation readily accepts you and your old one forgets the over 9000 times you saved their collective ass and treats you like the worthless foreign trash that you now are.

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Yet I full well support hair and facial changes. Even if I have to pay for it like when one wants to server transfer, I would gladly throw down a 10 or a 20 to alter my character's physical appearance again.

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I would accept this only if they added new hair and face options.

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Originally Posted by Jackstin

Dunno but I'm glad they did. It is more likely to get implemented if it is shown to be a consistently popular request.

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It's not going to happen and it's not a popular request. It's just a few vocal people who thought tarus were awsome and then learned otherwise. Just be thankful that you don't have to make a new character for ever job like you have to in every other game.

I'm not a taru and I don't plan on changing my race. I still support a paid race change program whole heartedly. Happy customers are paying customers. Paying customers make the game stay online longer.

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Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji

It's not going to happen and it's not a popular request. It's just a few vocal people who thought tarus were awsome and then learned otherwise. Just be thankful that you don't have to make a new character for ever job like you have to in every other game.

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I think it is quite a popular request actually. It's not just a couple of people in this thread, there's a lot of people just chiming in to say they support this. I'm not saying its definitely mega popular, neither you or I know this, and if you say you do you are delusional. All I am saying is that I think it actually could be a popular request.

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Originally Posted by Jackstin

I think it is quite a popular request actually. It's not just a couple of people in this thread, there's a lot of people just chiming in to say they support this. I'm not saying its definitely mega popular, neither you or I know this, and if you say you do you are delusional. All I am saying is that I think it actually could be a popular request.

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And I'm sayign that it's no where as near as popular as some people would want you to believe. If they did, I'd say it's have to be paid and the same price that it costs to change servers.

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Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji

And I'm sayign that it's no where as near as popular as some people would want you to believe. If they did, I'd say it's have to be paid and the same price that it costs to change servers.

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As far as I can tell that's exactly what's being asked for...

I'd like a race change and/or a sex change. I have a female mithra character that I wish I had created differently, but it's too late to change her now.

I doubt this is something we'd ever see though.

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Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji

And I'm sayign that it's no where as near as popular as some people would want you to believe. If they did, I'd say it's have to be paid and the same price that it costs to change servers.

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And I will say once again. There is no way either you or I could know how popular, relative or otherwise, this request could be. It's pretty sad to decry this request purely on the basis of how popular it is, when in truth you have no idea.

I wouldn't mind this if it was a one-time quest that was a pain to complete. That way, people who really want to do it will jump through the hoops necessary to complete, and they would be fully aware it can't be done again.

Greetings,

I apologize that I can't say much but we would like to thank you for your suggestions to allow race changes as well as alter other character features. This feedback is being taken into consideration. :)

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Originally Posted by Okipuit

Greetings,

I apologize that I can't say much but we would like to thank you for your suggestions to allow race changes as well as alter other character features. This feedback is being taken into consideration. :)

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Good to see that it'll be considered....

off topic: what happened to the other team members?

Well at least we finally got a response to this.

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Originally Posted by Okipuit

Greetings,

I apologize that I can't say much but we would like to thank you for your suggestions to allow race changes as well as alter other character features. This feedback is being taken into consideration. :)

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This has nothing to do with Tanaka's departure, does it? Now that he's gone, our suggestions are more valuable? :)

We got an actual comrep to post, and it's not a negative answer!

I am so satisfied right now.

I cannot express how happy I am to hear that this is even being considered.

No joke. I made a female character a long time ago, not realizing the implications of doing so. When the marriage system was introduced, I must have been proposed to at least 10 times a day. I've also grown older and my reasoning of being able to look at a ladys backside constantly has lost is value, especially after getting married in real life. I would hope there is some way in the future to be able to change my hume female into a hume male in order to get some masculinity back into my life, lol.

Lore and reasoning be damned, shut up and take my money!

I'd absolutely do this in a heartbeat for my alt.

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Originally Posted by Okipuit

Greetings,

I apologize that I can't say much but we would like to thank you for your suggestions to allow race changes as well as alter other character features. This feedback is being taken into consideration. :)

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When ever an employee of any company says that they cant say much about a certain topic, it USUALLY means that something is already in the pipes~

Notice i said Usually

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Originally Posted by Okipuit

Greetings,

I apologize that I can't say much but we would like to thank you for your suggestions to allow race changes as well as alter other character features. This feedback is being taken into consideration. :)

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What is this? Where are we?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...htZoneLogo.png

Oh...

I'm pretty surprised with a lot of the changes that have been announced since Vana'Fest. It seems that SE isn't just quite ready to toss FFXI aside.

And isn't that just fantastic?

But guyz, if they add this then the game will be swarmed with people stealing items and guild banks that change their race and name every day so they can do it again!

I seriously hope nobody is against this for that reason though. People have stolen crap and caused problems in the past, and if it was bad enough the community always found out. You can change your appearance, you can change your name, you can change your server. But you can't change douchebag, and if you fuck people over enough they will find you and make it very well known to everybody of the things you have done.

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Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch

But guyz, if they add this then the game will be swarmed with people stealing items and guild banks that change their race and name every day so they can do it again!

I seriously hope nobody is against this for that reason though. People have stolen crap and caused problems in the past, and if it was bad enough the community always found out. You can change your appearance, you can change your name, you can change your server. But you can't change douchebag, and if you fuck people over enough they will find you and make it very well known to everybody of the things you have done.

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What's an LS bank?

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Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch

But guyz, if they add this then the game will be swarmed with people stealing items and guild banks that change their race and name every day so they can do it again!

I seriously hope nobody is against this for that reason though. People have stolen crap and caused problems in the past, and if it was bad enough the community always found out. You can change your appearance, you can change your name, you can change your server. But you can't change douchebag, and if you fuck people over enough they will find you and make it very well known to everybody of the things you have done.

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LS banks...lol

Sounds like you enjoy being duped.

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Originally Posted by Unaisis

When ever an employee of any company says that they cant say much about a certain topic, it USUALLY means that something is already in the pipes~

Notice i said Usually

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first: LOVE your youtube videos Unaisis, they make me smile :)
second: that this is even being considered makes me happy. I tried asking about this a very long time ago within my first year or so of playing and was told it was impossible (thought my character was going to be a brunette, and in game actually looks like a ginger... and wanted to change but didn't want to rename my character so I just lived with it...)
I do hope this goes through :)

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Originally Posted by Okipuit

Greetings,

I apologize that I can't say much but we would like to thank you for your suggestions to allow race changes as well as alter other character features. This feedback is being taken into consideration. :)

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Praise the lord...

This is awesome news. Can't wait to be a Taru Dragoon :P

Hello once more guys !
I would like to express my sincere gratitude to all the people who have...and also those who haven not supported my topic---our topic.
Not to mention how glad I am to notice that many more answers are flowing down the discussion.
Seeing that after one year and some necroposting, this was finally labeled a relevant thread to Square Enix Reps, makes me happy and I can tell that it's making everyone rejoice as well.

We finally brought this where we wanted !

Thank you guys, you rock !

I hope it's an actual consideration as it would generally make a lot of people happy, and not a "let's just say we will consider it so they stfu" kinda thing D: