/cry. $40 controller, here i come :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Miera
there are seriously no drivers out there for windows 7 for the ps3 controller? /stabbity.
For those of us who still support the PS2 version of FFXI
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03-17-2011, 11:28 AMRetiti
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03-17-2011, 11:30 AMKrashportNuuuu thats to much...hope this helps! http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0219451Quote:
Originally Posted by Retiti
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03-17-2011, 11:39 AMKailea_NagisaI have windows 7, all I did was plug the PS3 controller into my PC with th e USB cable attacked and it worked, yo uof course have to keep it plugged in. that or get your self a USB 360 controller or a PS3 Power A control (what I use and is wonderful)Quote:
Originally Posted by Retiti
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03-17-2011, 11:41 AMTsukino_KajiYou can... you wont like though.Quote:
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03-17-2011, 11:56 AMTrangnaiThe only PS2s that are 89-99 dollars are new, which are incompatible with the HDD meaning that you must use older systems only going for 49-59 Dollars used.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordanthos
In terms coming from a PS2 user, I enjoy playing the game on the PS2, however, the memory limitations mean that it is rather hard for SE to add new content to the game. I'm sure if we could enjoy new content in the game most of us would be willing to upgrade, those who won't will be lost. And honestly, good riddance i think SE being able to release another disc based expansion would be very beneficial to both SE and the players. all PCs with required specs can easily run this game, be it new or old. Unless your PC was made before the game was released (god i hope not). Xbox 360 also has more then required specs, but its not worthwhile until SE fixes the bugs in the 360 version.
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03-17-2011, 01:15 PMNecrose99
I was Forced to Abbandon my ps2 system for a Laptop , however I will say that with more rez offten FFXI lags out more so At times less i'm on my desktop with Quad core power.
The PS3 can run FFXI with recent Firmware updates rather well, but I would Agree , that it'd be nice to See Via Digital Downloads A Dedicated PS3 FFXI Kernel and system specific Patches.
I lost my Ps2 in the 2008 Collection it froze for 5 hours and wouldn't budge , I figured it'd be better than Adding WoG to it , since my CoP Disk was missing Via Roomies Brats. and cost of Replacing it is well High. n my plans were to eventually get a PS3.
Sometimes a HDTV , and a Soffa offers more cozzy Grind Experience , PC back or neck Begins to Ache after a bit.
Despite the lower resolution , while ppl in Parties were getting Windows update'd and thier pc would drop the game and restat w/o warning or a Virus would wipe out most thier system , the ps2 even up to Toah was none to Laggy and reliable.
I'm just hoping that updates detect the Ps3 and allow it to be the platform of chose for ps2 players offering rez up like a pc , detecting the ps3 hardware etc, etc, and downloading eventually PS3 specific game code.
Most the game code is shared IE dat files etc. even on pc , just the platform specific , sections ie the pol etc differ a bit.
hopefully if they release another Expansion IE with the Sothern Lands , etc, that they will Mesh all the prior contents into some of the quests , and offer a PS3 specific bundel but Wishlist .....
as well as it'd be nice to Ensure a better migration path to pc or Xbox or etc. though one can upload profiles macros etc , not sure thier non system specific. IE my pc Macros uploaded can be impoted on a chums XBOX or PS3 .
Despite a PS2 being slower often for mule parking in Rollanberry's typical bazzar it didnt go down less updates / storms or power issues. as well as in besiged my old Laptop wasnt to gifted on that Intel GFX chip was offten verry laggy, sometimes I get booted. PS2 however I may lag rarely and 1-2 secounds but no drops , despite the lower resolution at times the stability was enviable..
Just hoping that they over time add PS3 detection routines and via the update allow a migration to a Game core code base thats Ps3 Specific. or add on items that allow for Grafix enhancments.
Windows 7 is nice , however with 2 computers 2 Graduate students , one Middle School ager would be nice to have a spot when i have time, & if booted off my own pc to get my fix.
not nocking an XBOX but it's anoying they just dont have an I'm a player kit on SE store W/o Codes to get one up. though
IE a migration kit , though for PC the Steam option along with less ahem Legal means of getting media. Stem is purely all digital . just that that XBOx controler seems a bit off , i'd have to get me one the ps2/3 controler ports converter thingy. and only a minor few number of games on XBOX i'd like to try.
My PC controler is basicly a PS3 Style one. XD. Granted the ps2 is showing it's age , the ps3 and ps4 are remarkable systems , and talk is that the ps4 is coming sooner than latter. -
03-17-2011, 01:17 PMRAIST
about the drivers for the controller... did they finally do away witht he standard controller types? Still on XP myself, as it does all I need it too (haven't even booted the PC in 3 days now, pretty much just for FFXI and paying bills online anymore). Forget exactly how they were named, but in Winblows you've always been able to manually pick a driver and select something from a list full of things like "standard 6 button, 2 axis controller" or something like that. Had to do that once with an old knock-off gamepad I had back in Win98SE. XP has a bunch more options that covered all the buttons on my PS2 controller just fine. Might not be able to find a profile that enables all the buttons, but should be enough to work with. The windows calibration may look weird, one stick will be full x/y axis, while another will be seperate bars like for throttle and rudder, than the d-pad may show as regular buttons and not like a hat switch control--but you should be able to set it up as a standard controller type.
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03-17-2011, 01:19 PMCapnThisQuote:
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03-17-2011, 01:26 PMNightDagger
I still have all my original discs but I have also seen that people are nice enough to put the torrents up for FFXI (including all disc expansions). So i would not worry about losing your discs or them getting wrecked as there are cheap/free alternatives.
I play on Xbox now so I would be willing to mail my PS2 disc ( with all expansions) to anyone who ever needed them ^^
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03-17-2011, 01:37 PMRAIST
might want to try Amazon for some of those PS2 discs. On a whim I just searched and found some PS2 CoP discs going for $10.
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03-17-2011, 03:49 PMDetoxy
Ps2 should be used as weight to hold ur door open or to hold books on ur shelf. Its an outdated system that sony needs to stop supporting. U peps that still have a ps2 get a job and upgrade so we can move along.
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03-17-2011, 04:11 PMJagerForrester
I mean really.
The PS3 is out.
More technologically advance computers are out.
And they released FFXI on the XBox360.
FFXI (PS2 version) has been discontinued.
The bulky PS2 has been discontinued.
FFXI has been problematic for PS2 users and limiting to all players because SE still has the system supported.
What's the most beneficial reason that players want to still play on the PS2 version? It's been, what? Over 2yrs since SE started declaring that the PS2 was limiting their abilities to expand the game? That's more than enough time to build a reasonable savings to upgrade so the entire community could enjoy more content in the years to come. -
03-17-2011, 05:25 PMColdbrand
But guys, everyone should cater to me because I refuse to make any effort to switch from an 11 year old discontinued system to something new!
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03-17-2011, 06:13 PMDauntless^Quote:
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03-17-2011, 06:28 PMFlunklesnarkin
I don't even know how much longer it will be feasible to even play on ps2.
Don't those consoles eventually burn out/ break down just from normal wear and tear.
I don't even know people who use the same car for 10+ years.. let alone a video game system
It would be nice if they could continue supporting the ps2 forever.. but realistically it has to die at some point...
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03-17-2011, 09:16 PMUrteil
I'm still convinced that the N64 is blessed by the Lord Jesus Christ.
Forged in the crystal forge of Superman's fortress of solitude.
And had the balls of Brahman brush atop its curvaceous frame.
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03-17-2011, 10:29 PMKailea_Nagisathe main problem with your argument, is that in Japan (where most of the PS2 player base is) The old PS2 and HDD are still being made and sold, it was only discontinued in other regions.Quote:
Originally Posted by JagerForrester
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03-18-2011, 05:17 AMJagerForresterStill doesn't prove the fact that the PS2 has been causing FFXI to have problems. All they would need is reason to stop using it... why are they still making the bulky PS2 in Japan? Are they upgrading the system where it's more reliable?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa
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03-18-2011, 05:19 AMJuri_LiciousJapan = Sony fanboys.Quote:
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03-18-2011, 05:24 AMKailea_Nagisanever said it was not holding FXI back, in fact I know it is, and I am on the side of updating FFXI to PS3. It seems that one of the big sides of the argument was that the old PS2 and the DVDs where discontinued, and I pointed out that they are, but not in Japan, where most of the PS2 base is.Quote:
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03-18-2011, 05:26 AMGadanae
This coming from an avid PS2 user for FFXI.
FFXI is the ONLY thing I play on a PS2 and it's only because I can because it's still supported. Other then that, the PS2 is dead, and as stated before, should be used as a paperweight. I just like it cuz I can play it still.
Would I lose sleep or be upset if they discontinued supporting PS2 for FFXI? Hell no! As stated before as well, FFXI expansion has been limited due to the PS2. If they stopped supporting it, then that would get rid of the limitation! (I think that's the reason why we don't have much much much more inventory in-game, if i'm wrong correct me).
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03-18-2011, 05:35 AMRetitioff topic again, but, i have a van thats 20 years old. best thing ive ever had given to me lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin
i love playing on my ps2, i still use it a lot for other games, but id gladly give it up for ffxi if we got more content/whatever. especially if i can get this stupid controller to work on my laptop! works just fine on hubbies pc with win xp. -
03-18-2011, 05:38 AMcidbahamuthttp://www.amazon.com/PS2-USB-Dual-C...0394246&sr=8-3Quote:
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03-18-2011, 05:41 AMNeofireAnd people like you need to stop crying about something that most likely won't happen for awhile.Quote:
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03-18-2011, 05:43 AMRetitisorry, they dont ship to canada. belive me, ive tried getting a not crap controller, after shipping, theyre going to be over $40. not going to happen.Quote:
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03-18-2011, 05:54 AMNeofireAnd? Its caused more good then harm and bottom line is SE isn't about to discontinue the ps2 support because others won't FF11 to be less accessible just so that they get more content. Hello! Why' do u think 14 was created? Because I'm sure SE knew it had limits and wasn't going to alter FF11 but cutting a system. FF14 is Sea main focus not a 9 year old mmo that people are leaving anyway.Quote:
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03-18-2011, 05:56 AMcidbahamutMeh, I tried. You just gotta find it available closer to home I guess, since I'd imagine if you could snag a $5 adapter it'd beat the headache of configuring one of those weird PC-specific ones.Quote:
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03-18-2011, 05:58 AMcidbahamutSo throw all the resources into saving the ship that's sinking and on fire rather than scrubbing the barnacles off the one that's been sailing strong for years making boatloads of money?Quote:
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03-18-2011, 06:22 AMfizzywig
My question here is why does square not add it to the ps3 if its to powerful for ps2 officially?
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03-18-2011, 06:40 AMKrashportThat's your opinion and I except it, Also SE "might" lose support but sad to say.. only to member like you, Reason why your picking SONY over SQUARE-ENIX, (PlayStation 2 over Final Fantasy XI). ES can only help "Those" PS2 Players that are coming off like you in file form. I'm pretty sure "Their" (SQUARE-ENIX) not coming out w/ a new Chipset, DVD, RAM for PS2's maybe http://us.playstation.com/support/?s=ps2#ps2 can help. I'm pretty sure Sony moved on when they came out w/ PS3 I been hearing talk about PS4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neofire
No Neofire Us you as well every member of the FFXI family to get more content. ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by Neofire
Also if making money ATM is tough and can't afford to upgrade, I'm sorry but paying 12.95+ a month is that helping money problems in away?
It's my opinion but I think 14 was a remake of 11 but only problem they made the same mistake twice its on PS3 as well as PC.Quote:
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03-18-2011, 07:02 AMYarly
How many times do people have to say this?
YOU AREN'T GETTING NEW/MORE CONTENT IF PS2 SUPPORT IS DROPPED.
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03-18-2011, 07:47 AMJagerForresterJust to get this out of the way, I never doubted you knowing the PS2 is holding FFXI back, otherwise SE isn't doing a good job letting people know that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa
You proved to me why the PS2 is still supported, but it doesn't prove it's the most beneficial reason why they still play FFXI on it. I was originally a PS2 player in 2009 when I left and PS2 limitations were beginning to be announced at that time. But I wanted to play the game again. I looked at the PS2 and said, "You're being a problem for FFXI, and I can play the game the same way with something else. You no longer serve me any purpose." If they provided an substantial upgrade to the PS2 where the limitation problem disappeared, I probably would have stayed a PS2 player. So far the most beneficial reason I am hearing is lack of finances. It's not difficult to put money aside every paycheck into savings; I do it every 2months.
I believe FF14 was created to do what FF11 couldn't, expand and customize. That's why 14 looks so much like a clone to me, and I bet SE was planning the FF11 player base was going to move to this new MMO, allowing them to shut down FF11 after FF14 becomes their new cash flow. Unfortunately, FF14 is in the hole. A failed plan to be honest, but they are trying to remedy the mistake by making FF11 attract more revenue as they fix FF14.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neofire
They are doing so by getting new players to reach the highest levels much faster so new players can spend their time experiencing all the game content (missions, quests, end-game, etc.) they currently have released for FF11. It has taken a good chunk of time to complete all this content for the older players. So as the newbies spend all this time with all the current content, SE is accumulating the money made to get back up on their feet and recover from the mess they are in.
If they use this money to recover FFXIV, it's another big risk they are taking, and recovering won't be as successful as it would be if FFXIV was a success on the first release date. If they use this money to fix FFXI, which already has a strong, but dwindling player base (because of veterans leaving for lack of new content), they may have much more of a chance to recover lost profits, and veterans may come back to explore the new content on their already built characters.
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03-18-2011, 08:59 AMNeofireI could give a damn about how you perceive my typing skills because its irrelevant. So try to find something else to hurt my feelings on.Quote:
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On top though to comment on your "I agree FF14 is the main focus, but not their major concern. Making money is, and they can't make money with a failed product as much as they can with a successful product." statement answer this, if SE has known about the limitations of the ps2(which i am sure they have for a long time now) why haven't they acted? Hmmm maybe it's because they don't feel that they have to? Or the fact that it probably wouldn't do much good? -
03-18-2011, 09:06 AMNeofireFinally someone with an unselfish opinion. SE isn't going to drop ps2 support or they would of did that before they started losing accounts 2 and 3 years ago.Quote:
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03-18-2011, 09:14 AMTsukino_KajiQuote:
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Originally Posted by Krashport
True that the statement, "YOU AREN'T GETTING NEW/MORE CONTENT IF PS2 SUPPORT IS DROPPED" dose say they dropping PS2 will not gain content. But you have to keep in mind that it's only half of a true statement. You are forgetting that the PS2 itself is blocking any new content. So then one could go as far as to say that dropping the PS2 will provide new content.
SE please keep in mind they these are just a select group of very vocal complainers that do not make up the comunity view as a whole and are, in fact, the vast minority. -
03-18-2011, 09:16 AMPizzaTheHutSeriously? You're posting a link to a 2009 survey? That anyone can fake? Done by a non credible source? For all we know twenty people could have answered that survey. So unless you/they have proof of almost every single player on each server participating in that study, that proves nothing except that the creator of that survey is just as selfish as everyone else.Quote:
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Also they used a percentage based system instead of a number for exact participants.
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03-18-2011, 09:18 AMTsukino_KajiSE has already proven with their own surveys that the player base jumps on them. Did you bother to check the traffic of the site?Quote:
Originally Posted by PizzaTheHut
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03-18-2011, 09:25 AMRAIST
A simple fact to this PS2 debate:
SE has STATED they can't do certain things because fo PS2 limitations...so much so that it has become a running joke on some forums to just reply "ps2 limitations" to any suggestions.
It just stands to reason that if there was no need to support the PS2, then that limitation is gone. Then, they have to look to another reason...maybe Graphics Engine or Emulation Layer limitations. But, as it stands now...a fair bit of issues are tied to the need to continue the PS2 support.
That's not opinion, that is fact. If PS2 support were dropped (and there weren't other limitations), then they COULD produce more content, or perhaps enhance current content to a higher quality...unless they run into issues with the Xbox360 then.
So, no we wouldn't necessarily get new content without PS2--but it would no longer be the excuse for not making a lot of changes that were shot down in the past.
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03-18-2011, 09:26 AMKrashportI take it that you just click last on every thread. so sad.. =(Quote:
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