Demilune Abyssite after each fight is 100% Upgrades to the next Tier, Please!

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

I'd actually say it's about as likely as getting 75 souls in 24 hours

The only reasonable way I see that happening is by shouting to buy pops in town, and actually offering enough gil such that people will bite

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I have gotten 75 souls in a 24 hour period.

Good for you? I never said it was impossible. But the upgrade rate being what it is, you have to have the luck of God Himself in order to get all those souls on your own in that time frame, which is why I said the only reasonable way I see it being done is with purchasing pops.

Having done many 4-6 hour stretches myself without an upgrade, it's not totally unbelievable to hear about 12.

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Originally Posted by svengalis

I have gotten 75 souls in a 24 hour period.

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As someone else pointed out before, this is basically impossible.

1 hour, per T3 NM, per zone. If there are 3 zones, which there are, and you need 75 souls, which you do, and you need them in a 24 hour period, which you claim... You have to kill every single T3 as soon as it pops, and with single drops that would net you 72 exactly, if you got only 1 per kill. Now if you got 2 per kill, you could kill just 2 zones NMs as soon as they were up and you would be done in about 19 hours. So are you seriously telling me you camped 2 zones at the same time and killed their NMs as soon as they were up? Or did you camp all 3 zones for around 15 hours? Also this is assuming you got double drops on each kill. If it was 1.5 drops per kill, which I saw an average of when doing my Souls for Ochain, then you would need to camp all 3 zones at the same time, killing the NMs as soon as they pop, for roughly 17 hours?

All in all, that seems like a fairly unlikely or near impossible statement.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

I never said it was impossible. But the upgrade rate being what it is, you have to have the luck of God Himself in order to get all those souls on your own in that time frame, which is why I said the only reasonable way I see it being done is with purchasing pops.

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Even if you purchased pops, it would take 1 hour to repop in every zone. Mathematically speaking if you were to kill every NM in every zone the very instant they popped so far as I know that would mean 72 kills, as every time I killed a T3 it was exactly popped 1 hour after the time of death of the last, I never saw an earlier repop. Going by that, not even factoring in the kill time you would have to kill them roughly 50 times for all souls by my average, meaning you would have to do it literally the entire 24 hours and have roughly 25 minutes to kill them each time, not counting the time to pop them, or time to buy them and get in zone, or time to change zones.

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Originally Posted by svengalis

Honestly that's not likely at all.

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And yet on at least 3 different occasions I went 0/9~0/12 on T2-T3 upgrades. Which again I say, worst case scenario.

Believe it or not, a lot more people than you think end up on the unlucky side of the "not likely at all" RNG.

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Originally Posted by svengalis

I have gotten 75 souls in a 24 hour period.

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Yea, ok.

It's borderline statistically impossible. Sure, that means it IS possible, but the improbability of it essentially makes it impossible.

For the stars to align and this to become possible, you would need to camp all three zones, without any competition, and get all the VNMs as soon as they pop, killing them in a sufficient amount of time. This is with the calculation of 1-1.5 souls per drop on the T3. If you got two souls on EVERY SINGLE KILL, which is a statistical improbability so absurd it can't be seriously considered, you would still need to farm two zones for nearly 20 hours under perfect conditions.

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Originally Posted by Okipuit

We understand that the system is difficult but the rewards such as Ochain and Daurdabla are on an equal level. In a previous version update, we did increase the rate at which Abyssite upgrades and there are no further plans to adjust this system.

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Hmmm maybe I have no further plans on paying for the game anymore, seems like SE is pretty good about pushing customers away recently. Well good for you'

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Originally Posted by Godofgods

I went 0/70 on upgrading a t1 to a t2 before. After that i never hunted them on purpose again. (And no, i did not already have a t2.)

With upgrade rates fairly low, and sooo many ppl camping them, and camping them over and over and over at that, its really an insain process. I realize the reward is high, but still, you could effectively spend months working on this and not be any closer to getting it.

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There is a system in place where you can Upgrade T1 >T2 1st time, every time. Just because you haven't figured it out and want all the answers spoon-fed to you doesn't mean there is an issue with it.

As previously mentioned the T2-3 is about 25% chance, therefore in empty zones riding all the timers you can get 3 T3 pops per hour with no luck. More with good luck and less with bad luck.

As SE said the rewards are still 2 of the best items in the game.


And for the past 3 month during GMT 5pm - 9pm all 3 zones have been empty on Asura.

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Originally Posted by Kormak

There is a system in place where you can Upgrade T1 >T2 1st time, every time.

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do tell? >_>

I'm on the fence with this issue... Having finished a 90 Ochain back in March-April, I had to deal with a HELLUVA lot of competition from all the people rushing to make them, so I definitely agree the upgrade rate is too BS, even at 25% for T2-3... but at the same time it felt like a real accomplishment (yeah, yeah, virtual rewards LOL video game accomplishments blah blah) when I finally finished Ochain, and tbh Azdaja, one of the supposed worst NMs from Abyssea, felt like a bloody cake walk after the VNMs.

So I do agree the upgrade rate is horrible, but the idea of making them 100% is just too boring. Just look at delve. If anything I'd suggest making red proc increase the upgrade rate to 50~75%, so there's still at least the fake difficulty EVERY MMO needs to keep subs active, but it isn't the terribad headache it currently is. Tbh, I'm willing to bet it's somehow worse now for some people with no competition. At least when I was doing mine the competition gave me a reason to actually TRY to be there in time for spawns, it gave me a drive that eventually won me my Ochain. With no competition, I could just do it whenever I want, which tends to cause me to put things off longer and longer...

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There is a system in place where you can Upgrade T1 >T2 1st time, every time. Just because you haven't figured it out and want all the answers spoon-fed to you doesn't mean there is an issue with it.

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I bet your dad's uncle's cousin's nephew who works at SE told you that, right? :rolleyes:

Just realized this is the same thread from a while back with some guy claiming he got 75 souls in 24 hours. What is it about this thread that's attracting all the people with outlandish claims with zero proof?

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Originally Posted by Daniel

do tell? >_>

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

I bet your dad's uncle's cousin's nephew who works at SE told you that, right? :rolleyes:

Just realized this is the same thread from a while back with some guy claiming he got 75 souls in 24 hours. What is it about this thread that's attracting all the people with outlandish claims with zero proof?

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I laugh at your disbelief that 75 colourless souls cannot be done in 24 hours, technically it can be done in under 5 with perfect timing. * Without the use of any third party applications* before you start barking up that tree. Using vanilla ffxi on pc!

I will not give the game away on that one however T1 >T2 one I will give to the community because I am feeling generous.

Step 1 Buy Clear abyssite for 300 cruor. (If done in one of the first 3 zones move to step 3)

Step 2 Travel to one of the first 3 zones. (I personally use Konschtat Highlands)

Step 3 Track down the T1 and pop I. Do not attack it! you can mark it with a weak ability like Chi Blast making it easy to identify.

Step 4 Kneel again to get the next hint. If hint <= 120 yalms track that one down.
If >120, usually around 200+, move on to the next hint and start at step 3 (you can kill the first one as it is now useless)

Step 5 Once you have popped the second T1 (if it was within 120) kill it and you will be rewarded with a nice colourful abyssite. (The first one should still be hitting you, hence why marking HP bar making it easy to tell which one is which)

Now that I have put this out there I am sure there will be a patch unless SE did want it to work like that. If so good job Fynlar for ruining it for everyone.

To the rest make the most of it while you still can :p

I've farmed a lot of colorful Abyssites and the above does not work. I used to round up three or four and attack them in whatever order auto-attack picked and I'd still regularly not-upgrade.

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I laugh at your disbelief that 75 colourless souls cannot be done in 24 hours, technically it can be done in under 5 with perfect timing. * Without the use of any third party applications* before you start barking up that tree. Using vanilla ffxi on pc!

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I laugh at you seemingly ignoring the enormous levels of cards that have to fall in just the right way for that to even be a remote possibility, even with buying pops (which involves its own luck factors, like people actually having them, being willing to sell them to you, taking absolutely zero time to get to each pop, and not running into competition). The odds of the sun blowing up tomorrow are probably exponentially greater.

Still say doing it in 24 hours is almost guaranteed to be BS without buying pops.

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I've farmed a lot of colorful Abyssites and the above does not work. I used to round up three or four and attack them in whatever order auto-attack picked and I'd still regularly not-upgrade.

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I bet you weren't doing it on a full moon on Watersday. He probably just forgot to mention that bit

3-5 is not what I said.

Have you even followed the instructions? If the second one you pop isnt in the same mob "area" then it doesnt work.

Ill tell you what tell me a good free screen capture/ recording softwate and I will make a video right now!

And then you (Fynlar) and you two like group can kiss my Galka Meat Rod


Edit: And if you want 75 or 150 souls Fynlar then come to asura and you will have them before the end of sunday. @350k per soul of course.

Double Edit: Infact why should I go out my way to prove myself. You post a video proving me wrong following my exact instructions (not 3-5 in any order). I am also not bothered if you dont believe me or go out your way to prove me wrong, you keep taking 30 min + to change T1-T2. My above offer is still on :) its usually 300k a soul but since you are a bawbag its 350.

Good day

I'm 150/150 on souls, so nah

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Double Edit: Infact why should I go out my way to prove myself.

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idk, I thought the reason you bothered to type all that crap out is that you wanted people to believe you

Proof generally helps with that

Who cares about clear > colorful anymore? They upgraded that and it's quick no matter what you do.

Aside from that, I am on the fence when it comes to this. Yeah the process is tough and annoying but your reward appears to be something that will never be affected by ilvl and is probably going to be best-in-slot for a long time. That probably seals the deal and makes the headache worth it.

Well.... considering they gave most of the empyrean armors +1 and +2 away in the last event.... it would appear that most people only enter abyssea in hopes of getting exp, or to start the quest for empy bard/paladin items. It would make sense if SE made the trial items easier and quicker to obtain by making each pop 100% upgrade considering you have to fight each monster 25-?? times (and that's just for one person out of the 500+ people on a server) In some respects I see why they have not allowed this yet, because they most likely were concerned with people completing this event (abyssea) too quickly, and leave them with nothing to do....however I feel that with the current state of the game (and the arrival of Seekers of Adoulin), this concern should and could be addressed quickly... I feel most people just sit at their computer now and look at the screen blankly instead of playing the game... but if we had more things to do in older areas, perhaps it would give everyone something to do other than listening to the very lively music of jeuno/adoulin.......... PS cant wait for the new update where they most likely will fix this issue plus many more!

I can't wait for Elder Scrolls online to be release, I hate WoW because it's a simplistic game, same with FFXIV, and I dont plan on renewing my account here until they straighten out this game, so that leaves me waiting for Elder Scrolls. I'm so glad I read through this post, and found out what SE said they weren't going to do with a game I pay money to play, it makes the decision to no pay to play much easier. Good thing I have the option to hit them in the wallet.

Great customer service and public relations you have SE

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Who cares about clear > colorful anymore? They upgraded that and it's quick no matter what you do.

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While yeah, it's usually pretty easy, I remember the last one I did took somewhere around 20 kills ;;

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Originally Posted by Kormak

3-5 is not what I said.

Have you even followed the instructions? If the second one you pop isnt in the same mob "area" then it doesnt work.

Ill tell you what tell me a good free screen capture/ recording softwate and I will make a video right now!

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http://ohsoft.net/product_ocam.php#new

oCam is good. You can define the area of the screen to record.

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Originally Posted by bungiefanNA

http://ohsoft.net/product_ocam.php#new

oCam is good. You can define the area of the screen to record.

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Thanks alot for this, really good program.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVYHP...ature=youtu.be

Enjoy!

If you didnt believe me before you will probably just call luck on this but I have done it over 150 times so believe what you want.
I just wanted to help the community and get assaulted by people claiming I am wrong.

Hope you find this helpful everyone else.

Take Care

Unfortunately for you, it seems to be much easier to disprove your theory than to prove it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vCBtsB0JF4

If I hadn't thought it would be so easy to disprove I probably wouldn't have bothered walking out there. Next time you want to make up a voodoo procedure please remember to claim a sub-100% success rate.

PS. the thing that gives you timestamps has a built-in video recording function.

^ rofl

So again, I must reiterate my earlier question: What is it about this thread that's attracting all the "voodoo procedures" as it were?

Well I can only appologise.

It works for me everytime so I am not quite sure what to say.
I have no issue with the way you did it only that you had 100 tp from somewhere.

Anyway, perhaps I am just the luckiest man on the planet and beat the RNG every time.

I can only say it has helped me speed up colourless souls to no end and if it doesn't work for you then I cannot help you.

As for the T3's I will take that to my grave :)

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Anyway, perhaps I am just the luckiest man on the planet and beat the RNG every time.

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Yeah, I'm sure that's it :rolleyes:

Ill be honest, I think the VNM system is general just sucks and should be removed. The randomness of upgrades, the fact monsters are invisible and run around faster than we can, the fact a T3 breaks every time no matter what... I hate it all, very stupid system in my opinion, but oh well...