Twitter Stream with updates from Japan

heres the link to that press conference

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/

Even with scheduled blackout, power usage in the 9:00-10:00 range hit near 35/36MW--looks like they are going to have to continue them after all?

NISA press conference getting ready to start--they are passing out memos, should start soon.

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Originally Posted by Haglaz

heres the link to that press conference

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/

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Awesome thank you.

sea water testing had elevated levels of nuclides (cesium and others) exceeding acceptable limits close to the reactors so additional testing is in order.

3 reactors still need manual cooling efforts

Looking to use concrete sprayer to get water into reactor #4 as other vehicles are still focused on #3 and they may need to spray #1 some as well to suplement the internal cooling system.

power supply built to #2, but suspended efforts due to dark smoke coming out, automated systems not running yet. Waiting to assess state of systems before attempting to start.

Cable has been laid to #3 and #4, but no power to them yet.

#6 cooling still running on diesel generator, looking to connect it to electrical soon.

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DailyYomiuri IAEA reports radiation levels 1,600 times higher than normal (161 microsieverts per hour) 20km from the Fukushima N-plant.

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all in all, prety good news.

I love you raist! Keep the updates rolling!

So are they going to turn the servers on tonight or what? It's bad enough they've already broken their responsibilities by not having a back up plan to keep FFXI running. But now they haven't even given us an update yet as promised. Come on SE. I need to play FFXI.

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So are they going to turn the servers on tonight or what? It's bad enough they've already broken their responsibilities by not having a back up plan to keep FFXI running. But now they haven't even given us an update yet as promised. Come on SE. I need to play FFXI.

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It's only 10:45am tuesday, give it a little more time. ^^

Someone is addicted...

it is only 10:45 in Japan... they need to scope out the situation... as noted earlier, even with the blackouts peak power during the rush hour nearly capped out the supply.

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Someone is addicted...

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Is it me?



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IAEA: Positive developments seen in Japan's crisis

The head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, Yukiya Amano, says he is starting to see positive developments in Japan's efforts to stabilize a crippled nuclear power plant.

Amano made the remark in an emergency IAEA board meeting in Vienna on Monday which opened with a silent prayer for victims from the massive quake and tsunami that hit northeastern Japan on March 11th.

He told the meeting that he and Prime Minister Naoto Kan agreed last week that Japan will speed up the supply of information about the crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.

Amano said that the situation at the plant remains very serious, but some positive developments have been seen.

Officials from Japan's nuclear safety agency later briefed a working-level meeting on how the crisis developed at the plant and their plan to restore cooling systems for reactors.

The IAEA has already sent an expert team to Japan to help. The organization plans to send more nuclear and radiation experts if Japan requests it.

Tuesday, March 22, 2011 08:10 +0900 (JST)

for those that didnt watch it.

just scanned their IP's again ... POL named servers inactive, down to just 37 hosts responding. They may not have been happy with their tests if that is what was going on. /cry

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just scanned their IP's again ... POL named servers inactive, down to just 37 hosts responding. They may not have been happy with their tests if that is what was going on. /cry

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oooh raist comfort handing over tissue
breau, alexander/bastok

now that was on the ffxiv servers?

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now that was on the ffxiv servers?

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all IP's in the 3 subnets that I know belong to SE, some are specific to FFXI and POL

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DailyYomiuri TEPCO says the "smoke" coming from reactor 3 is actually steam and has judged it is safe for workers to return to the area.

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well dang. maybe they were just testing out. or even getting ready in case the word came down to fire the game up.
still dont have any official word though.

yeah.. but it's nice to know that SOMETHING is going on over there...even if it's just testing network integrity. Think it's the lack of knowing what SE is doing that is driving everyone so batty....

Just pinged the servers for ffxi and got all response

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Just pinged the servers for ffxi and got all response

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all or none? your sentence confused me. ^^

Well not sure what it means but the thread saying se has turned on their servers got locked out. there was a bit of flaming there at the end so it might be as simple as that.

Looks like they will indeed have to keep up the rolling blackout mess...last hour was still hitting @35MW even with a blackout block in effect. Oh well... wonder how long the next extension will be if SE decides to hold off a little longer.

SE's IP's keep going inactive....just watched some go dead/active twice just now....guess they are going to be tinkering for a while.

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Just pinged the servers for ffxi and got a response from all of them

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Fixed that for ya.

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DailyYomiuri TEPCO says it will not implement planned power cuts for the remainder of today. The 1st outage for Group 1 tomorrow will occur as scheduled.
9 minutes ago

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They just reported hitting 37MW peak though while still in a blackout... odd

<cross your fingers>

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<cross your fingers>

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Do you think they would risk having the servers on today for a few hours, perhaps for a day or two, and then have to turn them off if things get worse? I get the impression that since they're already committed to not charge for the rest of the month that they're just going to keep the servers off for at least a week more. Of course that's just speculation on my part, but I figure that the integrity of the server files is more important than anything else, I doubt they'll risk turning on the server in the event of an unexpected power failure due to overload, if that's even possible.

I can't really speak much since I don't fully understand how all that stuff works, but just judging by the way they're treating having one plant out of 53 others down affects the rest of the power being supplied to the country, I assume that there's not enough power to go around and that's why the planned outtages are being implemented, and if that's true, wouldn't that mean that if too much power is being consumed and there's not enough supply to meet the demand that it will cause an overload and shut down completely? I know I'm going in circles but I'm trying to make sense of why there are so many nuclear plants in Japan and yet one being down causes all this trouble, all the destruction problems aside of course.

brain fart... just realized how they laid out their stupid chart.

Max capacity is 37MW.... their max demand looks to be 35/36 MW. They were only giving one numerical value, just assumed it was the value of the freaking bars in the chart.

Goes to show what happens when you ass-u-me things......

/scream in excitement like a little girl!!!!!!!!

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brain fart... just realized how they laid out their stupid chart.

Max capacity is 37MW.... their max demand looks to be 35/36 MW. They were only giving one numerical value, just assumed it was the value of the freaking bars in the chart.

Goes to show what happens when you ass-u-me things......

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Is that good or bad? Does that mean they're using 35-36/37MW?

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Do you think they would risk having the servers on today for a few hours, perhaps for a day or two, and then have to turn them off if things get worse? I get the impression that since they're already committed to not charge for the rest of the month that they're just going to keep the servers off for at least a week more. Of course that's just speculation on my part, but I figure that the integrity of the server files is more important than anything else, I doubt they'll risk turning on the server in the event of an unexpected power failure due to overload, if that's even possible.

I can't really speak much since I don't fully understand how all that stuff works, but just judging by the way they're treating having one plant out of 53 others down affects the rest of the power being supplied to the country, I assume that there's not enough power to go around and that's why the planned outtages are being implemented, and if that's true, wouldn't that mean that if too much power is being consumed and there's not enough supply to meet the demand that it will cause an overload and shut down completely? I know I'm going in circles but I'm trying to make sense of why there are so many nuclear plants in Japan and yet one being down causes all this trouble, all the destruction problems aside of course.

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not sure on this either...but from what I've gathered the 1 power plant supplies most of Tokyo with power...it being down causes troubles in places like hospitals so to try to keep the hospitals with power they're doing outage waves in the other areas so that as ppl need the hospitals they can at least hope to count on the hospital nearest them being with power...

as for the servers...I'm thinking that once the power gets regulated that SE is gonna keep the servers down another day or so to be safe...kinda like a computer you usually unplug a computer in a bad storm to prevent the frying of the motherboard and thus the loosing of data on the computer...so if the servers are seen as a computer I think SE would keep them shut down to prevent the "frying" of the server info...

can't speak for them, but I would hazard a guess they would want to hold out for there to be enough headroom between supply and demand so that if they have to rely on backup power, it would only be for short spikes. Each of there big devices is likely pulling in around 700-800 watts or more because of power redundancy (dual PSU, battery backups), so they are going to need a hefty amount of current to keep those bad boys up.

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Is that good or bad? Does that mean they're using 35-36/37MW?

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correct, but that is also while a block was in blackout phase as well.

Considering they were able to peg 37MW supply again today, guess they are just going to wing it to see if the grid can handle it today.

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Originally Posted by RAIST

correct, but that is also while a block was in blackout phase as well.

Considering they were able to peg 37MW supply again today, guess they are just going to wing it to see if the grid can handle it today.

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And that's what worries me, that's not a long term plan, which is why I am leaning towards SE not putting the servers back online just yet. I am as ready as anyone to play, but I've been gone from the game for 4 years, and to be honest I'd rather they keep things safe than put the servers back online only to have to take them off again a few days later.

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Originally Posted by Deadlyscorpion

Do you think they would risk having the servers on today for a few hours, perhaps for a day or two, and then have to turn them off if things get worse? I get the impression that since they're already committed to not charge for the rest of the month that they're just going to keep the servers off for at least a week more. Of course that's just speculation on my part, but I figure that the integrity of the server files is more important than anything else, I doubt they'll risk turning on the server in the event of an unexpected power failure due to overload, if that's even possible.

I can't really speak much since I don't fully understand how all that stuff works, but just judging by the way they're treating having one plant out of 53 others down affects the rest of the power being supplied to the country, I assume that there's not enough power to go around and that's why the planned outtages are being implemented, and if that's true, wouldn't that mean that if too much power is being consumed and there's not enough supply to meet the demand that it will cause an overload and shut down completely? I know I'm going in circles but I'm trying to make sense of why there are so many nuclear plants in Japan and yet one being down causes all this trouble, all the destruction problems aside of course.

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Well actually six are down out of what? something like 55? The 55 provide 30+% of the power in the country. Now along with those, part of the other power sources are down too. They are getting those back up as well but since they arent radioactive they arent getting the media attention.
Oh and the country was on the edge in energy consumption before anything happened. They had plans to put two more reactors in business in April I believe.

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kenmogi FNN reports external power line has been connected to reactor 4

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Might be approaching an important time frame for the day. A lot of banks were talking about bringing their ATM's back up after noon today (almost 12pm JST). Will be interesting to see the impact if they do--could provide a good indicator for SE if they are closely monitoring everything. <HINT HINT... TAP TAP... YOU HEAR ME SE?>

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Well actually six are down out of what? something like 55? The 55 provide 30+% of the power in the country. Now along with those, part of the other power sources are down too. They are getting those back up as well but since they arent radioactive they arent getting the media attention.

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Wait, what? Six plants generate 30% of the power to the country? Where does the other 70% come from!?

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And that's what worries me, that's not a long term plan, which is why I am leaning towards SE not putting the servers back online just yet. I am as ready as anyone to play, but I've been gone from the game for 4 years, and to be honest I'd rather they keep things safe than put the servers back online only to have to take them off again a few days later.

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I'd rather SE keep the servers down til they're 100% sure it's safe rather then having to completely restart everything in the case of info getting lost in a outage surge...although everyone needing to restart would be interesting and loads would quit I'm sure...

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Wait, what? Six plants generate 30% of the power to the country? Where does the other 70% come from!?

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Oil? Coal? Gas? Water? Wind? Sun? ...

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Wait, what? Six plants generate 30% of the power to the country? Where does the other 70% come from!?

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no. all the reactors provide 30+% of the nations energy needs.
I believe the rest were provided in the standard ways like coal and oil. maybe gas? There are websites that address all this. Just google and you can find them easily enough.
bravenewclimate.com might have it.

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Oil? Coal? Gas? Water? Wind? Sun? ...

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no. all the reactors provide 30+% of the nations energy needs.
I believe the rest were provided in the standard ways like coal and oil. maybe gas? There are websites that address all this. Just google and you can find them easily enough.
bravenewclimate.com might have it.

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I thought they just had to reopen 11 coal mines because they were phasing them out. So how does that work, I'm mighty confused. I don't know why I had this crazy idea that like the numbers were the other way around, 70% Nuclear and 30% alternative hehe.