Up the lvl to enter abyssea to 70 PLEASE

You're stupid if you think those 3 are sock puppets actually. Organized, coincidence maybe, but not socks.

edit - Wrong link, sorry.

i wanna cry now. was in abyssea pt with mnk that didn know the main weapon was h2h and only used staff:(

blu that still dont have head butt or any of the spells other then power attack, pollen. what!, did he just leech a book pt 1-30 then abyssea to 99?

bst that dont use any pets not even the frog

and for god sake dont leech the pup job to 99.;; and ask me why the pet keep missing><

and the leech of all leeches goes to the whm with no debuff spells (Paralyze etc) at all, and only cure 1-3. but missing haste and all bar spells. wears Empyrean set as a lvl 94 asking why these cures so weak, i got a light staff and cure buffs

lady and gentleman the future of FF11

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Originally Posted by TybudX

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I'm not sure what haste has anything to do with the conversation at hand, sorry.

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Originally Posted by Trisscar

I'm not sure what haste has anything to do with the conversation at hand, sorry.

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I am just as lost as you actually.

Broken logic. There are 3+ people who are making threads about how abyssea level cap needs to be changed (because they are retarded) and 0 people making threads about how it needs to stay the same. Why are there no people complaining about how things need to stay the same...hmmm...maybe because they are fine?

People who don't want shit changed don't make threads about it until it gets changed and it sucks. It doesn't suck right now so there are no threads about how it needs to stay the same. They aren't needed because it's fine.

The irony of this whole crap is people complaining that leveling in abyssea makes noobs. Good players have capped whatever jobs they want to play at this point. If they raise the level cap on abyssea, the only people xping will be either new players who legitimately don't know crap about the game (and will probably quit because leveling is tedious), or dumb asses who think taking forever to level a job is fun (but are too stupid / antisocial to team up and leave the rest of us to our abyssea parties) because most of the good players are done exping .

Why haven't you all teamed up together to create a utopian old school exp linkshell yet? Perhaps if you guys could get together and create even one legitimate linkshell people might take you serious. There seem to be thousands of shells participating in abyssea and not a single one based on your ideology. I don't understand why you guys want to play with people who don't want to play with you? You guys all talk about making friends etc and learning. I don't feel like being forced into performing an action that you don't care for is very conducive to friendship or learning.

You know who sucks 1000 times more at white mage than that white mage that doesn't know how to increase his cure potency and doesn't have all his spells?

Answer: You. Because you don't have white mage leveled at all. Your white mage is still in the dunes. No amount of telling people how good you would be if you had it leveled is gonna change the fact that he has it leveled and you don't. Really wanna be a team player? Get your jobs leveled and stop wasting time killing crabs.

The worst white mage ever is someone who is not a white mage. Stop posting on the interwebs and read the wiki to learn your job. When you done pick up a copy of "How to gain friends and influence people" and realize that people want to know what you can do for them. Not what you think they should do for you. If your spending a lot of time with people who suck, you are either helping them not suck, or you are just fitting in.

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Originally Posted by Luvbunny

The old school party system was bitched to oblivion back in the days, it was horrendous, horrible and elitist. First the all warrior, ranger, monk, blm exclusive club, then came ToAU that gave us even more faster way to level that was a big massive complaints among the old schooler before ToAU, which brought us the death of Black Mages in party and the rise of every other melee DD + RDM + BRD + COR combo. So to have all these so called "old schooler" getting nostalgic is a tad ridiculous. But overall I agree with your post. Here are something people need to understand, basic human nature:

- People will always take shortcut over chore, leveling to 99 is a big massive useless chore.
- People then do not want to take time to master the job they just lvld fast to 99 because that is another chore.
- Most people are way too lazy to open up FFXI Wiki and read up information on their jobs, or use FFXI AH for more information on how to set up gears and spells etc....
- In general SE do very little to help with skilling up, and most abynoobieboobies do almost nothing to skill ups either, laziness and ignorance comes first.
- People do not learn how to work in small party set up, which is great if you can make it work but horrible if you have a bunch of people who have no clue how the dynamic works. Plus some people got offended if they are being told what to do...
- There are a lot of jobs that require you actually spend time on your own figuring out after you hit 99, blue mage comes to mind, one of the most complex jobs, as well as puppet master. Abyssea is there to give you advantage in battle, with mix and match atmas to suit your need vs mob, but people just do not want to figure it out.... reading problem..

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Agreed, also the reason why Abyssea is still in affect is because SE acknowledges that alot of the groups are not 18 parties anymore, but more like 3-4 and sometimes even 2. So Why not make t easier for people to level a wide range of jobs quickly rather than taking forever to have to level another job in order to be effective.

One does not simply get rid of gimps.

Increasing the level cap in abyssea doesn't guarantee that people will all of a sudden know how to equip and play their jobs. It also forces people who already do know how to play jobs to grind. Why would SE implement something that hurts legit players. Oh, wait... they already do that. Nevermind. Carry on.

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Originally Posted by nyheen

lady and gentleman the future of FF11

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And the past and present as well. There's always been people who were ignorant or unskilled, and there always will be. Play with who you want to play with and help the people around you get better. That's all you can do.