Version Update Delay

Breaks my heart seeing what's going on in Japan. The last couple days ingame I kinda felt sick and not in the mood to play at all (was just idle in port jeuno wondering how many players ingame were in japan at the time).
God bless and God speed to the countries recovery and survivors.

<3 Japan

Not realy cuz alot of ppl prob dont care. Its still a business and has to go on. Person stuff and business does not mix more then liekly this could put a dent in the company.

As much as I hope all the employee's of SE and their family members are safe, and I understand the crisis in Japan isn't something that people can imagine that this kind of devastation could occur so quickly. My prays and thoughts go out too all. But why delay the update?? Does the delay till April mean the servers wont be on till April?? This update was due for release when the servers where turned back on...

To the D-Bag Faythless, You contradict yourself with wishing well to Japan and in the same Breath only concern yourself with playing...Anyway, Hope You all in Japan settle everything with the horrific destruction out there first, the true fans will be here waiting for the return. As a thought, you guys should have offered the players the option to donate the monthly fee to the relief efforts over there...Create a page for a donation or something...Best of luck and my sorrow goes out to your beautiful country

I have no problem in donating this and further month's fees to Japan. Most people here in Brazil are looking everyday for news about the catastrophe that crushed your beautiful country. I've been there years ago and I love your way of life so I'll do everything to help... Final Fantasy will be back someday, now it is time to worry about the people's lives and not about game stuff! Come on people, let's do our part!

I think my donation to the Red Cross of Japan will help out, along with spreading the word of awareness. I'm glad this is being prioritized before gaming and business.

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To the D-Bag Faythless, You contradict yourself with wishing well to Japan and in the same Breath only concern yourself with playing...Anyway, Hope You all in Japan settle everything with the horrific destruction out there first, the true fans will be here waiting for the return. As a thought, you guys should have offered the players the option to donate the monthly fee to the relief efforts over there...Create a page for a donation or something...Best of luck and my sorrow goes out to your beautiful country

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I have stayed out of the whining and a attacks on people being upset about w/e... But why cant someone offer sympathy towards the situation and yet voice they are upset they cant play... i will not bash u with names ... but lol these are forums ... say your personal peace leave it at that no need to call others names ... just makes u look like a d bag.. everyone is upset for many reasons and would take a truly cold hearted nerd to not give a sh*t about whats going on over there. its possible for people to feel for the country and feel upset something they put time into isnt here ... why is it so hard for people to understand that ... it doesnt make u selfish it makes u human to care about others / mixed with personal regard.... think about it ;p

Perhaps the latest events will cause SE to pause and extend a huge THANK YOU to all the international players who have supported the Japanese only world servers for all these years, and put up with consistent maintenance during peak hours, especially in North America.

This latest event proves a need to diversify servers and data geographically.

It is illogical to have all world servers in a clearly unstable Japan serving the world stage. This is a blow to Japan's integrity and ability serving the world professionally. The entire shutdown of all worlds could have been averted with a little diversity and intelligence in network implementation.

The real world does extent outside Japan.

I have no doubt that SE will loose customers over this.

SE network management implementation FTL.

Unfortunately, there is a bigger problem. Because the gameplay is not divided regionally (ie only NA on these servers, EU on those, and JP only on these, they are all on the same server at the same time)--all the regional locations have to synch up somehow. Won't get into the specifics as it's been covered exhaustingly in the other dozen posts on this issue--but you would be paying a heck of a lot more than $13 USD a month to play it.

Raist

I'd be very, very surprised if such major companies such as Sony were to stop all operations because of events?

Cost is a non issue, I pay the same as a Japanese player to play the game, but I get far less play time because all scheduled maintenance favors JST.

Furthermore, we North Americans, in fact already pay more for a lesser service, as our pings to any and all of these world servers are terrible at best.

unprofessional. nuff said.

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Originally Posted by Flux

unprofessional. nuff said.

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|Um...| if following a national/cultural tradition of honoring and respecting each other and doing what is best for a troubled people in great need is "unprofessional" of a company... than I want no part of that company.

Raist

nice Ninja edit after my reply there Flux. and BTW... Sony DID shut down all operations, as did nearly every manufacuring facility there. Sony and a couple other plants that process raw materials re-opened minimal operations a couple days later for short periods of time once it was determined it was safe to do so. In general though, a the larger sector of all large scale UNNECESSARY facilities are on standby until further notice.


And they have been doing a much better job with their scheduling. A lot of the updates have been kicking off during typical business hours in the US--which happens to start off during a large portion of JP leisure time. So it is a lot more balanced then it used to be. At least I could still get on by 9-10PM instead of not being able to get on at all in our time zone like it used to be. Also, that happens to fall more in JP's evening time, which means SE may be paying a lot of overtime for those updates as well since they are doing less of it during the normal office hours when they are fully staffed. So I further appreciate their efforts on that front as well.

Raist

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Originally Posted by Flux

I'd be very, very surprised if such major companies such as Sony were to stop all operations because of events?

Cost is a non issue, I pay the same as a Japanese player to play the game, but I get far less play time because all scheduled maintenance favors JST.

Furthermore, we North Americans, in fact already pay more for a lesser service, as our pings to any and all of these world servers are terrible at best.

unprofessional. nuff said.

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What you mean apart from this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12782566

EVERYONE is affected by it, sorry if you're to selfish to realise there are BIGGER things in this world, and you think you are the only ones affected by time differences and ping rates! Try living in the UK.

and as for cost! urm.. didn't I hear that Square are not charging for April (for an estimated one week of down time) so you get a month free for a natural disaster, yet.. you still complain.. simple thing here.. GET A LIFE! people like you tick me off.

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they also donated 100 million yen to the relief effort as well...

Raist

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Originally Posted by RAIST

they also donated 100 million yen to the relief effort as well...

Raist

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LOL that I didn't know, still I am standing my ground, and using the money that Square "refund" to donate to the relief, its the least I feel I can do (not saying I wouldn't have donated anyway.. just this is a perfect reason to)

Sony is diverse enough to shutdown operations in one part of the world and still operate.

LOL @ SE donating... We've donated by paying SE executives the monthly fee. If they didn't donate I would be stunned. Besides, it's a tax right off. Hey does this mean I can right off my monthly fee (or a portion thereof) as tax free? Interesting...

Maybe they could have donated 200 M ?

This forum is 3 years too late ...

are you serious? a TAX WRITE OFF?

You do realize there is a limit to how much you can deduct on your taxes for donations....

And I doubt your $13USD a month has much (if anything) to go to the SE execs after payroll for the crew that directly supports FFXI, the elctricity to run everything, the cost of the bandwidth to host it, varies supplies used in day to day operations, taxation, regulatory fees, legal fees, accounting costs.....and God knows what ever else there may still be in there.

And as for the diversity of Sony... SE has operations nationwide that are still up and running, working on development, QA testing and various other duties as well. The only thing down are the divisions for FFXI and FFXIV. Likewise, Toyota shutdown just the production in Japan... the plants in Alabama are still running.

Raist

Yup, tax write off.

Let's see... I guess Sandra Bullock donated that 1 million dollars so she can get that big old $500 tax write off to0 then, eh?

Raist

no doubt.

She could have donated 2M.

OMG! Square Enix makes all this money $13 USD x 100's of 1,000's, means they can afford this stuff!

This maybe true, but you do know it costs them, a fair bit to run the game right? if they have value based tax, means they be paying out a crud load of tax on this game, lol in their eyes, maybe closing the servers will get the taxman off their backs for a while, although doubtful, as their company is still valued at x amount, and will still have to pay the taxman what he wants.. regardless.

But my point is this...
You KNOW the situation in Japan, you KNOW the servers are based in Japan.. what you think that Sqaure should say "Sod what they say... we are keeping our servers running, because we have people paying money for this game!"

Think like this.. would you feel happy if Sqaure-Enix turned on the servers again, Taking what little power the country has, to please you,.. if you knew there was a Hospital reliying on the same power source, trying to keep people alive?

For once.. why not think about other people.

Flux, why don't you grow up and get a heart. put your self in Japan's shoes and see if you can survive what they are going through. quit trolling about something that is hurting real people. in all reality your probably just a little kid hoping to get a laugh out of this, open your eyes and look to the world, people are hurt and under the threat of a nuclear meltdown that could kill a large part of Japan, and all you can do is say that SE is just trying to get a tax write off on all of this

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Originally Posted by DukeDudeston

For once.. why not think about other people.

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One of my great frustrations (not to mention why I believe a number of players need a good whop up side the head) is that, no matter what anybody tells them, they only think about themselves.

And THIS kind of behavior, in that they won't think of other people even if their thoughtlessness kills the other people, is why I have gotten pissed off enough to be banned from every FFXI forum save here.

I've heard people say that it should be taken simply as a "business decision" as to when Square-Enix puts the servers back up.

"Business decisions" like that KILL people!!

"Business decisions" are like what get people declared "useless eaters" in this economy!!!

So, to those who have May Wong Syndrome (NOW! NOW NOW NOW!!!), STFU and HAND!!

PS: Oh, and if you think we're getting the game back before mid-April, you must honestly believe that the Japanese are not being openly deceived about the situation.

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Originally Posted by Flux

Sony is diverse enough to shutdown operations in one part of the world and still operate.

LOL @ SE donating... We've donated by paying SE executives the monthly fee. If they didn't donate I would be stunned. Besides, it's a tax right off. Hey does this mean I can right off my monthly fee (or a portion thereof) as tax free? Interesting...

Maybe they could have donated 200 M ?

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This is probably going to get deleted, but it's the only response I have for this particular victim of May Wong Syndrome:

GO SCREW YOURSELF!! Attitudes like that KILL people!!!

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Originally Posted by Dragoon9

Flux, why don't you grow up and get a heart.

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False premise. He has no desire to get one.

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Originally Posted by Starcade

False premise. He has no desire to get one.

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probably so *shrugs* should just grow and drop everything he has said

he just wants people to hate him, if he is a troll then just ignore him

doing that hurts him and takes away his fun

Power is being restored to cooling systems of the reactors

From Tokyo Post Twitter feed:

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NISA Press Conference: Power to 1-2 reactors today, 3-4 tomorrow, 5-6 today - pump at #5 functional and 1 diesel generator working

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Hopefully a sign of good things to come!

Raist

that is good news, Thanks Raist for the update

lets hope the good things keep going and Japan can get out of this crisis

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This is probably going to get deleted, but it's the only response I have for this particular victim of May Wong Syndrome:

GO SCREW YOURSELF!! Attitudes like that KILL people!!!

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Go screw yourself?? Attitudes like that indeed kill people. Money and greed kill too, and earthquakes, and cars, and beer.

"You sense a strangely familiar stone fragment from POL."
"Your FFXI Withdraws status will wear off in 1 month."

First and FOREMOST, take your time to get back up from this disaster. Vana'diel can wait till the cows come home for all I care. Reality takes precedence. Period. Though I am deeply appreciative of the announcement, it has nothing to do with the situation at hand; don't take it wrong. We knew you would delay this. We don't care about that, considering what's been happening there (and those that care more about a fantasy world over this one do not deserve to play; take that however you wish). Second, I'd rather hear updates about how Square Enix plans to support those in need in areas hit hardest, or how the sitation is improving/progressing or even if aid is needed (late in stating that, I know). To be honest, I'm glad they're pushing it back. It's better this way, and I respect that. Preaching to the converted, yes, but it's the truth.

Sincerely praying for Japan's recovery,
Kuwabaraone

PS. I also pray that those who've lost loved ones, can still find the strength to go on...for what it's worth.

We are not worried about getting back on so soon. We're more worried about you and your families being safe and sound. Remember, the first thing the game tells you is that your family and friends (real life) comes first.

That being said.. don't you belong in a museum of some sort "wilma"?

Just confirming what 99% of the players have quoted already, "Take your time" and as some have said, "This is only a game" and also "I NEEDED THIS BREAK". I'm sure others will admit, most end-game players are burnt out and me personally we re-enjoy the game when the you can re-open the serves {whenever that maybe}. My thoughts and prays go out to all the ppl in Japan and hope everything will calm down soon.

To the person who quoted that Mother Nature is a BLM {i'm sorry for the player's name}, lets hope they are not in Abyssea with the super refresh, and runs out of MP very soon.

Once again, to all SE staff, please take your time with re-opening the game, as Family/Friends do come first.

/bow

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Originally Posted by WilmaFlintstone

We are not worried about getting back on so soon. We're more worried about you and your families being safe and sound. Remember, the first thing the game tells you is that your family and friends (real life) comes first.

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I agree at 100%. So please.. take your time.

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what an ..................
breau, alexander/bastok

You guys realize this is talking about the version update, not the servers themselves, right?

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Originally Posted by Eligia

You guys realize this is talking about the version update, not the servers themselves, right?

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They don't. But if there's been any further notices hidden in this mess, could someone point them out?

wow um really? this post is so very selfish and unwarented and the poster should be ashamed to haave even mad the selfish remarks. since in fact SE will not be charging for the down time of the servers shows that they have no intention of screwing the end user over and how can you predict a disaster of the magnitude that hit japan aswell and the nuclear reactors being damaged and the nation calling for ppl to not waist energy atm which SE is currently compling with