[dev1049] New weapon skills

Test Server is cool, but it seems like forever the SCH update has been on it, and not added to the main server.

Truth be told i'm mostly interested to see if RDM gains access to any of them. Doubt it though.

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Originally Posted by Camate

You asked for a video and here it is!

These are just a taste of what's to come!



Pretty flashy eh? What's your favorite? :)

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Great sword looks amazing o_o

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Originally Posted by Camate

Yes, all 14 new weapon skills will be on the test server once maintenance is completed tomorrow :) So you will be able to try each and every one of them out! Hope you are looking forward to it!

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can you say whether they're intended to be gained from skill level or via quests? and whether they're going to fall under the general job-specific class of WS (ie: have to either be main or sub certain jobs to have access, like how thf only gets raging fists if it subs mnk or pup, or how rdm can't get vorpal blade without subbing war/drk/pld/blu/etc)?

Wow, all of these new weaponskills look amazing! I particularly love polearm (jump WS? Huzzah! Plus it just looks awesome), and sword looks pretty cool too. Staff? That looks awesome to beat people with.

I have a question though - are these job-specific? Because I only saw PLD on the sword one, and I'm hoping that BLU (and possibly RDM) will get in on the action too.

I love the RNG ones the most. Looks to really pack a punch. BTW, 5 arrows in animation suggests 5-hit. If it ends up using 5 arrows, that WS would get expensive fast without something like unlimited shot.

All-in-all, they're totally epic. My gut tells me their sole purpose is damage, but knowing how things typically turn out, watch them be more elemental WS... ._.

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Originally Posted by Kensagaku

I have a question though - are these job-specific? Because I only saw PLD on the sword one, and I'm hoping that BLU (and possibly RDM) will get in on the action too.

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14 WS in total, 20 jobs so I'm sure multiple jobs share these. It'd stand to reason you'd need relatively high combat skill in order to use them, just putting them out of the use of any job lower than B skill.

So glad to see NEW animations, and not just the same character movements with different flashing lights. The only pick i have about the video, is the Paladin seemed to be a bit more agile than I would have through. It looks more like a dancer WS than something a PLD should be doing.

Maybe the Paladins should go hit the dance floor and show the Dancers what's up?!

Axe D:
Great Axe D:
Marksmanship D:
Dagger D:
Scythe D:
Katana D:
Great Katana D:

Otherwise O.O maybe I won't cancel my subscription...

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Originally Posted by Camate

Yes, all 14 new weapon skills will be on the test server once maintenance is completed tomorrow :) So you will be able to try each and every one of them out! Hope you are looking forward to it!

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Any pics of the club weapon skill would be awesome!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oO63kWFmMk

So looking at the effects on the new GS WS, it seems to have some similarities to Sudden Lunge, which is kind of a common trend among Stun animations (stun itself is just rings closing in on a target).

5 hit Stun WS with each hit increasing stun length? K.

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Originally Posted by Leonlionheart

So looking at the effects on the new GS WS, it seems to have some similarities to Sudden Lunge, which is kind of a common trend among Stun animations (stun itself is just rings closing in on a target).

5 hit Stun WS with each hit increasing stun length? K.

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I think you really try to see something there but I need to tell you the truth. There is no rings closing in on the target, I'm sorry.

Any idea when you'll be able to post the other ws? I'm dying to see GA.

Do you intend to rework the animation of the older WS too ? to make them more racial specific looking. (agility of the mithra, the cocky elvaan ...)

The old WS are already differentiated by race. Taru do backflips!

I'm gonna level some of these jobs just for the weapon skill :)
Very happy indeed.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

The old WS are already differentiated by race. Taru do backflips!

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Which WS features a tarutaru back flip?

Asuran Fists? Pretty sure Smite does too.

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Originally Posted by Sappho

Which WS features a tarutaru back flip?

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Asuran Fists and Blade Ten. That's all unless one of the Nyzul/Empy/~300 skill ws that I haven't seen does too.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

Asuran Fists? Pretty sure Smite does too.

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Victory Smite doesn't

Blade: Hi also has midget backflips.

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Originally Posted by Atoreis

I think you really try to see something there but I need to tell you the truth. There is no rings closing in on the target, I'm sorry.

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Maybe not closing in but they're there.

Wow, color me impressed.

...Greatsword finally got a good WS?


Even if they all suck and just look flashy...they certainly do look flashy. Super nice job on the animations.

inb4 5-hit 0.25 fTP WSC: 22.5% MND / 22.5% CHR Duration of Magic Evasion Down varies by TP

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

inb4 5-hit 0.25 fTP WSC: 22.5% MND / 22.5% CHR Duration of Magic Evasion Down varies by TP

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The fTP would apply to all hits, even if the Development Bros had to work overtime to make such an innovation possible. The potency of Magic Evasion Down would be 10.

Miraculously, the one-handed Axe weaponskill would be even worse than that. Maybe it would have "Chance of not striking your own crotch while performing weaponskill varies with TP." or something.

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Originally Posted by Camate

You asked for a video and here it is!

These are just a taste of what's to come!

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Pretty flashy eh? What's your favorite? :)

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requiscat. you guys should just use the translation instead of the latin lol. "Rest in Peace" sounds so much cooler then requiscat. oh and ill hate you all forever if these arent skill based and accesable to all jobs that can hit the skill levels. ( Im talking about giving rdm requiscat.) rdm has been denyed all "skill" weaponskills since shining blade for christ sake. give us a skill weaponskill finaly.

Ok, want to know how I know these ws's are going to suck?

Well, I'll tell you.

The mobs are still standing.

If you have an empyrean, will you use these weaponskills more than the first week they're made available? Probably not, but they do look cool!

Now, do something about the Fasha damage and I'll actually be excited.

wouldn't it be funny if that 5 hit GS ws was critical.....
If SCH can't use that staff weaponskill I'll be mad.

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Originally Posted by Pebe

If SCH can't use that staff weaponskill I'll be mad.

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You'll probably get it natively like Retribution or Spirit Taker, but worst case, you'll have to sub a job capable of melee. Like Warrior, Monk, Paladin or White Mage.

I really hope that these animations were not wasted on low fTP, low mod% WSs. I hope these WSs shine and actually have a practical use and are still not overwhelmed by the 2006 era WSs. It would be such a waste of resources if these WSs are not amazing.

Hey Camate any chance there going to be a new expansion for Final Fantasy XI?

Camate, I shall give you my Chocobo's first born if you get those other weapon skill videos soon. :Q

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Originally Posted by Mizuharu

Camate, I shall give you my Chocobo's first born if you get those other weapon skill videos soon. :Q

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I want to see if Taru does a backflip on any others! Especially dagger.

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Originally Posted by Mizuharu

Camate, I shall give you my Chocobo's first born if you get those other weapon skill videos soon. :Q

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You won't have to wait long you can see them for yourself when they update the test server tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by Arbole

14 WS in total, 20 jobs so I'm sure multiple jobs share these. It'd stand to reason you'd need relatively high combat skill in order to use them, just putting them out of the use of any job lower than B skill.

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Oh, they will be shared, but it remains to be seen if some jobs get them. RDM has higher sword skill then DRK, and actually uses swords, but it doesn't get access to a lot of sword weaponskills (in particular elemental sword WS). Also, I hope the H2H one isn't another Tornado Kick.. even though PUP can use it, you'd need Footwork and MNK kick attack gear to make decent use of it.

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Originally Posted by Kristal

Oh, they will be shared, but it remains to be seen if some jobs get them. RDM has higher sword skill then DRK, and actually uses swords, but it doesn't get access to a lot of sword weaponskills (in particular elemental sword WS). Also, I hope the H2H one isn't another Tornado Kick.. even though PUP can use it, you'd need Footwork and MNK kick attack gear to make decent use of it.

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Footwork doesn't have any effect on weapon skills, other than TP return because of the higher delay.

Apparently the English names of the weaponskills are having the same issue as the English names of Bloodpacts and Ready commands, so good luck testing stuff we can't use!

Actually, good luck even convincing a Development Bro that something weird is going on with the English names of new stuff rather than every single English client being installed incorrectly. While I agree with them that most people who play FFXI are stupid, I seriously doubt we're that stupid.

Maintenance is over, but it seems non-JP users cannot use the Weapon Skills once again because WSs have "." as description. Seems the same issue with the two new SMN bloodpacts.

It would be unreasonable maybe to expect a translation, but then why not leaving the original JP text and allow us to use these new things? Or put a general description like "Placeholder description n° 2" or something like that, no need to wait for localization team to translate it to allow us to test them...
This is frustrating :(

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Originally Posted by Leonlionheart

Footwork doesn't have any effect on weapon skills, other than TP return because of the higher delay.

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It does affect TP return more than that.
With Footwork active you get FULL tp return from the first TWO hits of a WS, instead than just the first one like it normally happens.
(unless my morning-dead-brain has misunderstood something of your post °_°)

New WS look pretty cool, I like how they worked hard on making them all look unique and fit with the races. Mithra ones look awesome in particular.

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I really hope that these animations were not wasted on low fTP, low mod% WSs. I hope these WSs shine and actually have a practical use and are still not overwhelmed by the 2006 era WSs. It would be such a waste of resources if these WSs are not amazing.

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Keep in mind they put quite a lot of work into these, that alone leads me to believe they won't be skill level unlocked and instead either be quest based like emps/relics or maybe linked to clears in VW. They won't simply hand these to you given recent updates.

Seems english players cannot use the new weapon skills seeing as they appear as "." which is kind of irritating i was really excited now i'm just kind of mad :x

It seems you're not up-to-date Runespider.
The 14 new WSs are already on the test server and they are unlocked through merits.
Each WS can be upgraded up to 5 times, total upgrade of the category is 15 atm, which means up to 3 maxed-up Weapon Skills.