What new Jug Pets would you like to see 91-99?

1) Karkinos (just because Venom Shower is 40 a tic DoT/Def down would be so nice not to mention Mega Scissors)
2) Slime
3) Ruszor

BSTs I am disappoint. There's a pet on that list BSTs have begged for since 1-75, and it's getting no respect right now.

Slime.


Slime's physical damage taken down is listed as a Special Defense, and does not/should not count towards the physical damage taken down cap since it's a separate stat. So, having a slime with pet -50% physical damage taken down gear would make it so it only takes 25% of physical damage. That's a hell of a pet, and it has tp moves that can do great damage or help heal itself in emergencies.

Well our new slug has Enslow...

Hanuman has Ensilence, and I'd expect it to stick. Ensilence with PDT-... (also Dispel, DoT/Phys, AoE, and a free Heal).


Plus he's an Opo-opo. BST NEEDS an Opo-opo, damn it.

Slime and Hecteyes!

Slime, yay!

i got an idea how about make it posable to make custom put jugs through pankration

• Hippogryph
• Chigoe
• Scolopendrid (Scorpion)
• Toad
• Orobon
• Rafflesia
• Slime
• Hanuman (Opo-opo)
• Ruszor

It was hard to choose.. I'm tired of mandragora types, but most of the others sound awesome.

• Slime
• Toad
• Chigoe
• Ruszor

Slime just because they are awesome, and toad/chigoe would be a nice Yuly replacement(if Yuly caps before 99 without Beast Affinity) or they could even have different resistances.
Ruszor mainly because it is a big pet that can take quite a beating and even become immune to damage types.

Hecteyes (above all head and shoulders)
Ruszor
Sea Monk if applicable

Scorpion
1. Hippogryph
2. Scorpion
3. Slime
4. Puk
5. Blue and red deremite

Ruszor
Hippogryph
NAUL o.ob

You all call yourselves Beastmasters!? I say remove the new Tiger jug and replace it with the monkey and please no more Mandy pets we have too many of those as it is.

Having BIG jug pets really sucks anyone remember using those Antlions? they are so big all they do is get in the way of everyone they are very annoying.

So my Pick would have to be the monkey! Hanuman (Opo-opo)
And if your thinking 2 the 2nd would be Hecteyes if they cast magic without sic/ready.
If they don't then the Scorpion, Death Scissors should hit hard with it at 99.

I didn't say slime because the new slug is just as good if not better.

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Add jugs that call a random pet each time.
We tried looking into revamping the system, but since the amount of work is on par with completely reworking the Call Beast system, making this happen seems to be quite difficult. It’s something we would like to do, but we apologize we can’t do this!

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Easy fix for that give us an Item that dispenses a random jug pet every 20 minutes. (76+ jugs please)
Timing could be alot of stuff could give a random stack once an hour.
12 jugs - call beast is every 5 mins (without merits) - that equals 1 every 5 mins and by doing that bst could afford to play the job again and the AH would have pets galore!

Toad (Cause I think it'd be cool if it attacked fast with high DPS in place of the abilities)

Karkinos (Looks cool and I love the model and attacks)

Red crab (I've seen dat mods of red/pink crabs and I've always loved them. Unless there's a red crab in this game i don't know about?)

Colibri should be added no matter what happens with this list cause i think feather tickle can really open a niche for BST.

Rest that we don't have (Ruzor, Orobon, ect) should be added for completeness imo.

As you mentioned we have to get Behemoth. What sort of BeastMASTERs would we be if we can't tame the King of Beasts?

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Originally Posted by Camate

It's possible to implement Chloris, however, the development team mentioned it wouldn't be possible to use her (his?) special moves, i.e. Fatal Scream.

Also, for those that are asking for Toads, you do realize they do not have any special abilities, right? >.> You okay with that? lol

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Maybe their referring to the frogs that use frog chorus and frog cheer

This is really, really hard to narrow down. Can't I have all of them?

I WANT ALL THE PETS!!

I can narrow it down this much.. but its super hard, and I really cannot decide.
Hanuman - Having and OPo-opo would be fantastic. They have wonderful abilities.
Hecteyes - I've talked about this one adnauseum. Having a casting pet is super fun, even if the spell is pretty random.
Scorpioin - We want a king dd. Scorpion shows the most promise for a just a mean killer pet, imo.
Rafflesia - I really like the abilities. bloody caress, triple attack.... charm? really charm?
Ruszor - We lack an aquan at high levels, I'd like something new. Ruszor's have fantastic abilites as well
Hypogryph - yes, oh please yes.


However, some of the options seem to me like I'm missing something:

Red Crab - I don't recall ever seeing a red crab... how are they different from a blue crab? (don't get me wrong, unique appearances are wonderful and all... but is there any other difference? Same goes for black beetles and antlions...


runner ups:
Karakul: would only be worthwhile if it popped out chigoes that attacked the target for awhile when doing ready moves.
Slime: Like many bsts, I would have loved to have had a slime. They were the supertank (physical anyway) for charmed pets. BST's have had many great experiences using them. However right now, we don't have such strains being able to tank. Reward cures enough that we can keep pets alive. The main desire for a slime came out of a desire for a great tank. Slimes are fun pets, but compared to some of the newer options, I don't feel the need as strongly.

I think having special pets for relic/mythic/empyrean would be AWESOME!!!! (even though these are horribly time consuming to obtain for mythic and relic anyway...)

many good ones
Manticore (deadly hold/heatbreath) the campign beastmaster uses one afterall
Gnat with Insipid nip
Marid with Voracious Trunk
Colibri with the magic cast back ability
Gnole would be kinda cool too

What i'd really like to see is some kind of jug with a real Petrify move theres so many that can use it: Lizard, cockatrice, Ram, Peiste ect any of those would be great.

Slimes are still leaps and bounds above anything else in the physical tanking department and have better TP moves available to them than some of the other pets.

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Originally Posted by Xilk

This is really, really hard to narrow down. Can't I have all of them?

I WANT ALL THE PETS!!

I can narrow it down this much.. but its super hard, and I really cannot decide.

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I was pleasantly surprised by the list, too. I looked at all the stuff on it, and thought, "Hey, they're really listening and they really know what would make a nice pet."

Usually my thought is, "I wonder what the fort they're building out of their desks looks like?" so that's a pretty big step up.

If DRG can't get a Wyrm, BSTs sure as hell shouldn't. Besides it's a special mob type Dragon which BST has no Killer trait for anyway. I'd be pretty annoyed if BST got a WYrm that can spike flail and use breaths and has like 4k HP comapred to a DRG's Wyvern,

In order of priority for me..

1. Slime
2. Colibri
3. Hecteyes
4. Chigoe
5. Hippogryph

Slimes, because we've always wanted one. It'd make a great tank because of its damage resistance and it has good TP moves to help it stay alive as well.

Colibri, because we're lacking a bird jug, and Colibri's will be pretty useful with their Feather Tickle.

Hecteyes would be useful if they retain their spellcasting ability as jugs and we can Ready spells like we can Sic... giving BSTs one spellcasting jug pet option.

Chigoes should be pretty fun. They attack very fast and seem pretty accurate. However, since they don't have TP moves, I would expect that we'll be able to perhaps assign additional effects to their attacks somehow. ( Enpetrify, hello Pankration XD )

Hippogryphs, for another bird jug. Useful as an alternative to having both Eft+Sheep... An option for dispel and pet self-buff.

Slime & a bird.

Though I'd rather just have a reason to keep my charm macro instead.

Slime please, with the Cytokinesis skill!

My top 6

• Chigoe
• Karkinos (Crab)
• Orobon
• Rafflesia
• Slime
• Ruszor

• Karkinos
• Hanuman
• Chigoe
• Orobon
• Rafflesia

(I see lots of people joined the forum just to put their votes in :p)

1 Chigoe
2 Slime
3 Rafflesia
4 Hippogryph
5 Ruszor
6 Orobon

That is my TOP 6 pick! :D

Colibri
Hippogryph
Chigoe
Karkinos (Crab)
Orobon
Slime
Hanuman (Opo-opo)
Ruszor

Here's my list, bolded the ones I'd really want more.
May be a bit off topic but I wanted to ask... is it really unreasonable to ask the development team to add a few more families/monsters to be added to the list of those susceptible to "Charm"?
Over the past few years this Job Ability, which used to be a core mechanic to the Beastmaster job, didn't get any love.
All of the new JAs can only be used with Call Beast pets, in Abyssea not even a single monster is charmable and so on.
Would love to see some attention shed on Charm on the way to 99.

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Originally Posted by Camate

• Chloris (Mandragora)
• Karkinos (Crab)
• Scolopendrid (Scorpion)
• Toad
• Slime
• Black antlion
• Hanuman (Opo-opo)
• Black beetle
• Ruszor

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Those are my favorite.

Slime
Colibri
Chigoe
Red Crab
Hecteyes

But, if I have to choose a single one I'll go with a slime. Their damage resistance makes it a highly appealing pet.

chocobo! (not the one we ride a new monster only available as a bst pet with unic moves)

After looking over the list - These pets are normal monsters we should have gotten already:
• Colibri
• Hecteyes
• Scorpion
• Crawler
• Slime
• Karakul < This should of been Nazuna
• Hanuman (Opo-opo)

So what would be your pick now without those?
Mine would be Red Crab out of curiosity.
But I am sure this would be better • Karkinos (Crab)

As for all the people saying a Slime cause they can tank must not of tested the new slug on the test server. That slug was tanking Jormy pretty well when I was messing around trying to solo it. (I knew I couldn't solo it) I lasted about 15 mins with that slug and pet food Eta. Only took like 5-8% off it but still that thing is nice with good TP moves.

Opo-opo
Colibri(only cause I think feather tickle would be also party-useful..I guess)
Karkinos
Scorpion

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Originally Posted by Ophannus

If DRG can't get a Wyrm, BSTs sure as hell shouldn't. Besides it's a special mob type Dragon which BST has no Killer trait for anyway. I'd be pretty annoyed if BST got a WYrm that can spike flail and use breaths and has like 4k HP comapred to a DRG's Wyvern,

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It looks like that isn't going to happen. I'm not sure why (hope I don't get in trouble for this!) but part of the original Japanese post was not translated. There was an "I'm sorry series" included as well. I assume that is a list of pets they do not plan to implement for BST. The patterns is mob name and then reason. The list was:
ミミック族 (Mimic)
アルカナ類です！(Arcana)
アーン族 (Aern)
ルミニアン類です！ (Luminian)
ワイバーン族 (Wyvern)
ドラゴン類です！(Dragon)
ドラゴン族 (Dragon)
ドラゴン類です！（2回目）(Dragon -2nd time)
プーク族 (Puk)
ドラゴン類で（ｒｙ (Dragon)
ポロッゴ族 (Porogo)
獣人類です！(Beastman)
現存しない色変え系 (color types that do not currently exist)
新規のNMとして提供することを優先させてください。(Not sure about this. Regarding new NM's please let us program these?)
アンフィプテレ (Amphitere)
バード類なのですが、ちょっと大きすぎました…（本音で言えば、よびだしたいです。）(It is a bird, but it is a little too big. [If I tell the truth, I want to call this one)
チョコボ、ヒナチョコボ (Chocobo)
チョコボ カワイイ　デモ　タタカワナイ (Chokobos are cute but they don't fight!)
Ake/Ome（マンドラゴラ） (Mandragora)

Nonetheless, that is a pretty awesome list you have to choose from. I'm happy for you BSTS :) And if a non BST could give his opinion, Ruszor, Scorpion and Hippogryphs sound amazing!

1. Slime (keep the physical damage taken reduction)
2. Chigoe (no TP moves, but fast attack speed)
3. Ruszor (keep the TP moves as they are and I'd love this big ugly any day)
4. Hippogryph (just because BST is missing bird type pet)
5. Scolopendrid (Scorpion) (good looking scorpion model, death scissors go!)
6. Orobon (deadly if kept as they are)


• Hanuman (Opo-opo) (oh come on! About every BST who has done the artifact quest line would love this)

The Black Antlion, when "Called" should immediately perform Pit Ambush if theres something in range :P

Camate, The way you worded it made it sound like the devs are only letting us pick one. But i think everyone agrees that we need several.

Its also really hard to pick, because the final pet can be nerfed to worthlessness. It might help if there was more info about each choice. Ex. Chloris- just the sprite typical mandy power Orobon- without Gnash and NM moves Red Crab- Details about wat the hell a red crab does Ruszor- without healing from water, magic shell and physical shell moves ect ect. (these are examples, im not asking u to nerf them, im just asking u to be honest about how you are going to nerf them.)

If we knew more about what the final Ready list and en-effects and special abilites of these choices, we would be able to properly cast our vote.

As it stands my vote is for

HANUMAN- because i have wanted an opo-opo forever, and even if the ensilence is nerfed, and the spellcasting is removed, and the hundred fists tied to magic fruit is taken away, even if all that happens an OPO is still a righteous pet, with a nice n strong AoE and a nice n strong AoE heal, and a dispel, and some decent to strong single targets.


Here is wat i think about my secondary choices:

Ruszor- if its kept as is without nerf to magic and physical shield and water healing.

Karkinos- Because ive been wanting a courrier steve type jug for a while, the sprite is awesome and crabs rock.

Scolopendrid- to me this one should be added anyway as a normal jug, its awesome and all but its just sort of a normal pet. Please do sharp strike 2 charge death scissors - 1 charge.


Toad- if there hits and atk speed were increased a LOT to make up for there lack of ready moves, then i would be ok with this choice.

Red crab- wut does this doooo?

Orobon- I expect this guy to be worthless after all his good TP moves dont show up on the ready list.

Hecteyes- if he auto casts then heck yeah, if its the same random crap then booo

Crawler- again like the scorpion this one should just be given to us on the regular list, its just a normal old crawler. But i do want do want do want one.

Slime- awesomeness, can u make it a red one, you know the kind with endrain? and can u make digest not sucky? so far all the "drain" type ready moves for other jug pets have been severely weaker than they usually are for wild pets.

Chigoe- if it Does not die in one hit from special moves and crits and IF it is given a very high atk speed(or multi hit like the wild ones) and dmg then ok sure.

Hippogryph- this would be a WONDERFUL pet to end up with. Even if its moves are nerfed to hell and back it is still a thf bird. But what would be real nice is if they DO NOT NERF the tp moves. If choke breath is reliable at all then u will have a evasion tank with a lot of dmg mitigation potential via para and silence. Jettatura also could be nice using terror as a stun+. Fantod can be nice if it severely boosts dmg like the hippo NMs. And if they let us keep hoofvolley we will have a crit based WS. IF they wanted to be EVEN cooler, they could put in a small like 5-15% chance that the hippogryph will use hoof volley after any ready move.

Colibri- nifty if it mimics magic, but even still sort of meh.

Mandies (all 7 million of them)- no thanks, fix the crappy mandies we have now, and then maybe we might want another one.

Rafflesia- ONLY IF THE AMNESIA IS ACCURATE.

Karakul- if they pewp out chigoes maybe.

Black beetle- This isnt as horrible as it sounds. There usually pld mobs, i could see them ending up with lots n lots of HP. Rhino guard tends to spike there evasion up a considerable amount making them sort of thief like paladins. And Power attack has a crit chance.

Black antlion- Eh the old antlion's only saving grace was the fact that his HP was abnormally high, And he hit pretty hard. Standard antlions have super crap TP moves. So this new black antlion would definately need something special to hang with all these other suggestions.

Funguar(diff color)- the only reason i would really want to see a funguar again is if they got microspores and agaricus(skill) as decently priced ready move options.




Anyway there is my vote + a buncha questions.

when i think "Red Crab" i think of the KA Models. The ones that spawn in ToAU Areas, etc.

I'd prefer a Super-Crab (Krabkatoa model yes plz)

so maybe it will rage the longer its out?

I want BSTs to have a Ram!

I think Slime has been long over due as pet, its such a tough pet.

It would definitely be nice to have some more details.

From an aesthetic standpoint, I need an Opo-opo and want a Hippogryph.

From a utility standpoint, a Slime sounds like it could be incredible (if it's not nerfed).


Still sticking with the Opo-opo though. Ensilence would play very nicely with my PDT- set, and I don't see them removing that. Also keep in mind you get a free Reward if things get heavy / you get cheap- Magic Fruit is a big heal, I'm sure it'll stick in the 800-1400HP healed range.

The Guttler-exclusive idea is really cool and I support it (even though I'll probably never have one). I think the dev team should also consider adding some ra/ex jugs that can only be bought after certain quests or trials are completed. Maybe these pets could be a bit stronger than usual since the jugs would be rare.


I hope the dev team isn't only considering adding one of these. That's a big tease, as many of them look like great pets. I think BSTs deserve a lot more jugs since we haven't been able to Charm anything new. Trials would lend themselves perfectly to allowing BST access to additional jugs. It could even be something like, "Defeat 70 enemies with a Charmed Opo-opo."