[dev1035] Are PUPs the only loved ones?

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Elemental spirits =/= Automatons

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Can't argue that, though it would be a little less inaccurate to say spirits are the harlequin frame of PUP, in terms of usage amount. :p

xD I was speaking in general. Here's no reasons to hold any reasonable expectations of elemental spirits in comparison any Automaton. Would do better comparing them that of charmed pets of BST. I would never fully expect anything to happen to spirits until BST charm was made usable again to actually do what it's suppose to and control them like they would jug pets... or else I shall forever call BST jugmasters.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Can't argue that, though it would be a little less inaccurate to say spirits are the harlequin frame of PUP, in terms of usage amount. :p

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Even more accurate to say casting AI == casting AI, which covers monsters, automatons, spirits, npc fellows. I thought people were smart enough to see that was what I was referring to, but around here you have to say exactly what you mean or people won't understand.

Unless you want to claim casting spells on a timer is different from casting spells on a timer. Be my guest.

And one would say that's stupid and they need to split AI instead of using the same one that you base your ridiculous argument on.

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Originally Posted by Malamasala

Even more accurate to say casting AI == casting AI, which covers monsters, automatons, spirits, npc fellows. I thought people were smart enough to see that was what I was referring to, but around here you have to say exactly what you mean or people won't understand.

Unless you want to claim casting spells on a timer is different from casting spells on a timer. Be my guest.

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In addition to SE essentially just copying automaton behavior to spirits, wouldn't SMN have to be given some sort of JA to control them like a PUP has? I mean if you want spirits to be SMN's version of an automaton you might as well go all out right?

That established, could you give us a quick demo of how these new JA's are gonna work? Will they be the same for all 8 spirits? Will Astral Flow have any bearing on these new JA? If so, what? Will the new JA's for the spirits be compatible with avatars?

Of course i may have gone ahead a bit much there.

You might not have given thought to how spirits would be controlled after they get automaton behavior. And they would have to be controlled, you must agree to that? Because without some dynamic way of fine-tuning the AI on the fly, what's the point? Automatons are worthless without guidance.....

Could go on, but really why bother? What you are asking for is PUP. Only not the PUP we have ingame atm. You want pets with customizable AI being one of the main draws. Along with the hate free and disposable nature that current spirits have-or at least that's how it seems.

I would suggest you trying out PUP as it is now, but i remember now you said that was too much work on your part. Funny and sad that you think a small part of SMN should be retooled just because you are too lazy to lvl the job that seems closest to what you want ingame.

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Originally Posted by Spiritreaver

I would suggest you trying out PUP as it is now, but i remember now you said that was too much work on your part. Funny and sad that you think a small part of SMN should be retooled just because you are too lazy to lvl the job that seems closest to what you want ingame.

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