The Mysteries of Vana 'Diel

I think the Ixions are creatures created by the Goddess much like how Cait Sith is an 'avatar' but technically is a small fragment of Altana's power, not a real Avatar per se. Atomos is another entity as it exist across space/time and is probably one of the Primordial entities of the Universe like the Celestial avatars that existed before the Mother crystal split. This is probably so since Altana can't impose her will directly on Atomos itself he is of equal or greater power.

Why do Elvaan's clothing and hair become animated when they cast magic but not other races? Flavor or did the devs run out of budget when making the 5 races?

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Originally Posted by Ophannus

I think the Ixions are creatures created by the Goddess much like how Cait Sith is an 'avatar' but technically is a small fragment of Altana's power, not a real Avatar per se. Atomos is another entity as it exist across space/time and is probably one of the Primordial entities of the Universe like the Celestial avatars that existed before the Mother crystal split. This is probably so since Altana can't impose her will directly on Atomos itself he is of equal or greater power.

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Come to think of it, wouldn't Atomos be his own element? He's not celestial and he's certainly not terrestrial. Transcendent
Avatar would seem more likely since Altana's power can't control him (as seen in the Wings of the Goddess missions), but rather awaken him (using the feathers to travel through the dormant maws.) Atomos maws, however, have been used for other travel such as Abyssea. (And Shantotto hinted at it in Dissidia, but that's just a reference I believe.) They can be everywhere, and no where it seems...

But the real reason I wanted to make a post was to point out one thing and ask a question related to this one point...

I killed the Archduke of Jeuno and his little brother. Twice.

... How come the guards are still talking like he's alive?

Can I ask that these silly questions not take the place of real important questions like that Cheese Sandwich one did?

What does Ebon light do in Abyssea?

Why do moogles only spin in a circle and wave?

I think we all know what the biggest mystery is, we're just all too afraid to say it...


What do our Moogles really do while we're out? I mean all that time they're alone... no one ever knows.

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Originally Posted by Mizuharu

I killed the Archduke of Jeuno and his little brother. Twice.

... How come the guards are still talking like he's alive?

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It's a cover-up. You're the only person who is supposed to know they are dead. They are always "unavailable" (because they are dead).

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Originally Posted by Chilloa

I think we all know what the biggest mystery is, we're just all too afraid to say it...


What do our Moogles really do while we're out? I mean all that time they're alone... no one ever knows.

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They're all alone while you're out doing adventures. All the privacy in the world. Could do anything at all...

Do I have to spell it out for you?

Why does my chocobo refuse to enter an area, then run into the same area they just refused to enter right after I dismount?

when did Mithra's come to windy? and have they and taru always been friends?

Won't spoil it but it tells how mithra gained land in windy; in the wings of the goddess windy quest line.

You know there is one other thing I would like to know...

By releasing Pixies at the Fay Spring in Graubeg [S], we alter our present (the future) in the sense that they now exists where as before they were extinct... So, my question is this.

How come we can't alter anything else? I like playing Time Lord!

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Originally Posted by Mizuharu

You know there is one other thing I would like to know...

By releasing Pixies at the Fay Spring in Graubeg [S], we alter our present (the future) in the sense that they now exists where as before they were extinct... So, my question is this.

How come we can't alter anything else? I like playing Time Lord!

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Indeed.... since I assume alot of people stopped WoTG stuff.... why aren't Ladybugs and Rafflesia in the present now that they aren't being killed anymore?

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Originally Posted by Drivont

Indeed.... since I assume alot of people stopped WoTG stuff.... why aren't Ladybugs and Rafflesia in the present now that they aren't being killed anymore?

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It's different I think. The normal events that happened before we could travel in time still happened even after we stopped, so they're still extinct for the same reason before we could use the Maws. Whatever reason that may be. If we did keep killing them, then they would just become extinct a lot sooner.

It's different for Pixies because we were rescuing them rather than killing them. So I suppose we could assume that the monster who was carrying the Bottled Pixie was going to pull a Legend of Zelda and release it when it died in the midst of the war. Thus killing the Pixie? Which is why they were extinct before we messed with time.

I hope that all made sense, it's my theory and I'm sticking to it!

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Originally Posted by Chilloa

It's different I think. The normal events that happened before we could travel in time still happened even after we stopped, so they're still extinct for the same reason before we could use the Maws. Whatever reason that may be. If we did keep killing them, then they would just become extinct a lot sooner.

It's different for Pixies because we were rescuing them rather than killing them. So I suppose we could assume that the monster who was carrying the Bottled Pixie was going to pull a Legend of Zelda and release it when it died in the midst of the war. Thus killing the Pixie? Which is why they were extinct before we messed with time.

I hope that all made sense, it's my theory and I'm sticking to it!

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Actually there is a quest that explains ladybugs going extinct: Atelloune's Lament. If you recall, Atelloune was the assistant to famed Vana'delian biologist Clavauert B Chanoix (whom I happen to LOATHE because of his stupid Assault.)

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Originally Posted by Cymmina

It's a cover-up. You're the only person who is supposed to know they are dead. They are always "unavailable" (because they are dead).

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Spoilers here~

Well, you're really not the *only* one. But, in order to prevent any public panic, Esha'ntarl (who's REALLY in charge now) has ordered the cover-up of their deaths.

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Originally Posted by Cymmina

It's a cover-up. You're the only person who is supposed to know they are dead. They are always "unavailable" (because they are dead).

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The rank-and-file in Jueno (probably even Wolfgang, the head of the Jeunoan Military) do not even know about Kam'lanaut and Eald'narche, the Armathrwn Society is keeping everyone in the dark about what the pair did and were planning on doing. Fortunately, Esha'ntarl is a pretty nice person, so things there should be a lot less evil.

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Originally Posted by katiekat

when did Mithra's come to windy? and have they and taru always been friends?

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Mithran Mercenaries were brought to Windurst to help during the Crystal War since the Tarutaru were so few in number and Cardians could only do so much. To honor their service and sacrifice, the Star Sybill gave them the Mithran Groves area of Windurst Woods and seats on the Parliament of Patriarchs.

The Mithra and Tarutaru had been allies long before the war, the Mithran Pirates and Windurst Navy conspired for years to block Bastok and Tavnazia from using shipping routes to the South and East through the Pamtam Straits until Bastok and Tavnazia joined together and waged the Elshimo Naval Battle.

On the subject of Kam'lanaut and Eald'narche...

They're only dead until you change allegiance and do the rank 4 missions again.

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Originally Posted by Chilloa

I think we all know what the biggest mystery is, we're just all too afraid to say it...


What do our Moogles really do while we're out? I mean all that time they're alone... no one ever knows.

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The MHMU is part of a massive conspiracy to use adventurers as vessels for power. The modern adventurer system, which we are all a part of, allows us to gain power swiftly, but the moogles hold all the strings and can change this at any time. And depriving us of our levels is only part of their plan, not only will they render the nations powerless, but they will take that power unto themselves.

So, a lot of their time is spent filing reports on our actions to the MHMU and receiving correspondence on the latest aspects of the conspiracy. Thankfully though, moogles have grown attached to us over the years, and for the past decade or so their plan has been that it's far more useful to work with us than to stage a coup. But, should we ever decide to return to our mistrust of them (They ARE beastmen after all, and mankind once distrusted the furry little devils), they will not hesitate to take over and show us who's holding all the cards.

Oh, yes, and also I once came back sooner than expected and found my moogle on top of one of my party members' moogles. Let's just say I found out for sure she was female that day, and things have been a little awkward since.

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Originally Posted by Ziyyigo-Tipyigo

On the subject of Kam'lanaut and Eald'narche...

They're only dead until you change allegiance and do the rank 4 missions again.

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Advanced Jeuno-an technology robots.

Well, it worked in the A Shantotto Ascension storyline, I suppose...

Has anybody mentioned synthesis facing yet?

My question, in the Shadowreign era, relic weapons can be seen everywhere, most of the NPC's involved in the relic quests can be seen either as campaign NPC's or in WotG cutscenes. While there may be some NPC's with relics that don't show up, I can only think of one NPC who does show up, but without his relic, Mieuseloir B Enchelles, leader of the Crimson Wolves, and Wielder of Ragnarok. He is instead seen wielding a sword and shield. Why does he alone leave his relic at home?

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Originally Posted by Calamity

My question, in the Shadowreign era, relic weapons can be seen everywhere, most of the NPC's involved in the relic quests can be seen either as campaign NPC's or in WotG cutscenes. While there may be some NPC's with relics that don't show up, I can only think of one NPC who does show up, but without his relic, Mieuseloir B Enchelles, leader of the Crimson Wolves, and Wielder of Ragnarok. He is instead seen wielding a sword and shield. Why does he alone leave his relic at home?

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He didn't have enough Montiont Silverpieces to turn into a Ranperre Goldpiece at the time. :o

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Originally Posted by Calamity

Why does he alone leave his relic at home?

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"Dear Square-Enix,

Could you please make it possible to access Storage from anywhere?

Truly,

Mieuseloir B Enchelles, leader of the Crimson Wolves,
Wielder of Ragnarok."

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Originally Posted by Calamity

My question, in the Shadowreign era, relic weapons can be seen everywhere, most of the NPC's involved in the relic quests can be seen either as campaign NPC's or in WotG cutscenes. While there may be some NPC's with relics that don't show up, I can only think of one NPC who does show up, but without his relic, Mieuseloir B Enchelles, leader of the Crimson Wolves, and Wielder of Ragnarok. He is instead seen wielding a sword and shield. Why does he alone leave his relic at home?

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Because lolRagnarok.

This joke would have been more popular in 2007.

its Ragnarofl anyway! not lolRagnarok!

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Originally Posted by Urthdigger

Thankfully though, moogles have grown attached to us over the years, and for the past decade or so their plan has been that it's far more useful to work with us than to stage a coup. But, should we ever decide to return to our mistrust of them (They ARE beastmen after all, and mankind once distrusted the furry little devils), they will not hesitate to take over and show us who's holding all the cards.

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Moogles are Kindred not Beastmen, the wings and all the crazy powers are what give it away. There is an Elvaan NPC that even referrers to them as "those demons"

Supposedly Lamia, puk, merrow, hydra, mandragora, and khimaira are all chimeras created in the Hazhalm Testing Grounds.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Ah...y/Plot_Details (Part 1)

I must wonder, what two monsters are mandragora made of? Perhaps a taru and a goobbue?

Edit: And another question, though a bit more silly, when the King of Hearts defeats Mnejing, what level does he ding up to?

Beetle foot.

That is all.

Don't think the NPC had Ragnarok yet. Similarly Elvira isn't the girl in the CS that gives you Annihilator, instead it's Elrica. So some of the NPCs probably die and/or pass on their relics to others.

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Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull

Moogles are Kindred not Beastmen, the wings and all the crazy powers are what give it away. There is an Elvaan NPC that even referrers to them as "those demons"

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Looks like an animal, but has human intelligence. Hence beastman. One of the NPC fellows mentions them as being beastmen too.

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Originally Posted by Urthdigger

Looks like an animal, but has human intelligence. Hence beastman. One of the NPC fellows mentions them as being beastmen too.

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I can swear I remember them being referred to as fairies, though for the life of me I can't remember which game it was. Thought it was this one, but I've played so many they kinda meld together >.>

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Originally Posted by Crocker

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Wild_Pineapple There's also the Wild Pineapple that has no use been bugging me awhile now.

Why do so many things in the game look like a Penus? Zones to monsters its creepy!

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repeating greetings to the guaradian quest may require a wild melon or wild pinapple to quell the volcanos wrath.

why the hell is the fish in the aquarium behind the counter at fishing guild in port windurst swimming upside down? <.<

I love this thread. Just saying. :)

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Originally Posted by Ophannus

Don't think the NPC had Ragnarok yet. Similarly Elvira isn't the girl in the CS that gives you Annihilator, instead it's Elrica. So some of the NPCs probably die and/or pass on their relics to others.

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I think it's the opposite. Unless they changed the NPCs in the CSs when WotG came out, I'd think it's because Elivira may still be alive, just not seen. Kayeel-Payeel is alive AND seen, but no longer weilds Claustrum. I always assumed the CSs were ghosts of former owners that haunt the weapon. Which brings me to Guttler. Even in the Shadowreign era Guttler is possessed. As for Elivira, I thought I read that Annihilator was a family heirloom that was passed to her. So Elrica could be Elivira's Mother, Grandmother, etc. OR could be someone completely unrelated.

The guy who supposedly has Ragnarok can be seen in San d'Oria in the past, he has a Bloodsword/Gluttony Sword. It seems like I saw a video of the Excalibur CS and Kilhwch gives it to you.

BTW How is Dynamis connected to the past? You have to get a Shard of Necropsyche which is said to be remnants of a soul trapped in Dynamis. I always figued this was the soul of the person you meet.

Well, the original lore of it was that an elite group of soldiers known as the "Hydra Corps" were sent to the assault on Xarcabard, in the end darkness swallowed the land and they found themselves trapped in the realm of Dynamis. It was originally illustrated in one of the old tribunes, and there are CS's in the WotG cutscenes that play along with this. Several of the relic NPC's that you don't see in the past are introduced in one specific CS, and shortly after, you witness the catastrophe that supposedly swallowed them. It is unclear however, how the other NPC's like Kilhwch, Mieuseloir, Lhu Mhakaracca and the other's souls ended up trapped as well. This is all based off memory, so forgive me if I have messed up on a detail or two.

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Originally Posted by Kojo

BTW How is Dynamis connected to the past? You have to get a Shard of Necropsyche which is said to be remnants of a soul trapped in Dynamis. I always figued this was the soul of the person you meet.

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*spoilers*

In CoP 3-5 Diabolos says; "I am the ruler of dreams, and within my dreams--within my kingdom of Dynamis--people can escape the harshness of reality. Emptiness consumes the body, but the soul lives on--it lives on in my world." The original story of Dynamis is about Raogrimm's companions in their expedition to the Northlands trying to put his soul into rest as his soul is tortured by the memories of what he did in the war. About Hydra Corps, you can see them in a CS in WotG storyline wearing full sets of AF2s and relic weapons. So basically what we find to wear in Dynamis are Hydra Corps equipments. I assume that the shard of necropsyche is the essence of the original owner's soul who possessed the weapon in the first place.

Why when you leave your mog house in Windurst, does the camera point at your face (in 3rd person view)?? When you're in a hurry and already have the forward key pressed, you simply zone straight back into the mog house!!