Weapom Skill Adjustments: What we have and what we need

U need 39 Store tp to 5 hit

/SAM = 15
Rose + Brutals = 5
Raja = 5
Hoard = 4
Goading = 5
White Tath = 2
= 36 Store tp

Choices are....
Carabonara
Use tactical mantle (3% Da loss)
Use Ace's hose (3% Double DMG loss)
Use VV to make up the last 4-6 tp u need

I don't think you'd lose goading

it you're 5 hitting and don't want to be forced to ws in some really weird/stupid gear. Carbonara is the food of choice. (also helps with the AM set problem)

I personally never count on regain for my builds. Stick to the numbers.

Thats what I'm doing. I plan on finishing and maining Redemption until I get Apoc someday, but getting a 5-hit with Redemption while maintaining the AF+2 haste build isn't easy. It's possible if I acquire some small pieces, like Bushido's cape and Attila's Earring, but that'll suck away quite a few stats overall. If only there was one more +3 STP item that a DRK could use that wouldn't have to sacrifice a big piece of gear.

Edit: Oh, duh! I'm a dummy. I forgot about White tahlum! I can use that and the earring so I can keep wearing my mantle. Derp. x.x

Ok! Redemption 5-hit is a go!

i must be over tired, had to reread this 4x just to understand >< lol been crunching numbers too long today

kagato, whats the hit build look like for 5hit redemption?

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Originally Posted by vedder

kagato, whats the hit build look like for 5hit redemption?

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You need 33 more STP as a DRK/SAM using Redemption, which has a base delay of 502.

Assuming you want to still wear +2 Bale Body, Head, and gloves as well as Ace's Pants and Feet, this is the set you need:

Rose Strap: +4
White Tathlum: +2
Brutal Earring: +1
Hoard Ring: +4
Raja's Ring: +5
Goading Belt: +5
Ace's Sabatons: +5
Carbonara: +6

Chivalrous chain: +1
OR
Attila's Earring: +1
OR
Bushido Cape: +1

I personally think you should choose the Chivalrous Chain as your remaining +1 since it still has decent TPing stats. However, if you like the constant refresh from the Bale Choker, go for the Earring instead and have the Bale Earring on standby for WS macros. The Bushido's cape is another option, but Atheling Mantle is way too good to pass up as a TP item, IMO. Still, it's up to you.

Besides, there may be better gear later with more Store TP. Raja's ring may even be augmented through synergy to have a stronger StoreTP state or something, so just go with what you'll be happy with while keeping a lookout for anything that has an extra StoreTP point to make it a full +33 with everything else and the food.

You should be getting 20.1TP per swing this way, according to the calculator.

nice, hows the rebuild? does it drop a hit with your ws gear?

We really need to move away from this "give DRK a crit ws" mentality. The upcoming vit in crit calculations is obviously being implemented to address the razed ruin numbers. I do agree that it would be nice to get some decent non-quest WS, we've been using the same ones for years, but same that I'd rather they fill a niche for that weapon it doesn't have, ie a scythe WS that performs like spinning slash (spiral help with a gekko-esque pdif bonus) or a multi-hit greatsword WS (ever play devil may cry 4, where Nero crashes his sword into the ground repeatedly..?)

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Originally Posted by Sedres

The upcoming vit in crit calculations is obviously being implemented to address the razed ruin numbers.

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No, it isn't. If you even read what the devs said, they responded saying it was a buff for players only and will not be applied to mobs.

reading is hard.

you forgot one key piece of gear for a 5 hit build.

tactical mantle. Don't leave home without it!

if you wear a chiv chain, attilla's, or a bushido cape I'll murder you in your sleep!

lol kagato aggro'd a dart! hope it dont link! though he did say he prefered atheling to tact........

crap does this put me on the enmity list?