Hard to find help for Nyzul Isle

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Originally Posted by Kogenta

I don't see the problem on Nyzul isle. I recently helped a LS member getting his 100 in a month, and we did it as a set of 4 people, once a week 4 tags 20 floors per day. 3 DD and 1 RDM, with the occasional friend helping as another RDM. All 3 DDs need clear and got it. DRG WAR DRK.

I honestly don't like all of this "silver plate" stuff. You just need to spread word between your friends that you are looking for people that need nyzul and people will join. If you don't have friends, do some

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Yes, i agree in the case of those who have never done nyzul, they have it easy now and still from what i've seen, can't win with full pt usually. For someone who's done it 200x, however, i'm not going to shout for randoms or join PUG or nag another friend especially if they rather use tags on fl100, when i can duo it perfectly well given the chance. It would actually make it harder in theory so...As far as statics, been there, done that, ppl can be quite unreliable and no show, or have a case of diarrhea right in middle of all register lamps (yes, that happened). I'd just as soon not deal with it when it comes to old content.

As well with things like salvage and assault, even back at lv75 ppl were entering mules and disconnecting them to bypass the min requirement and someone i know was even jailed for it. LBC was solo'd at 75 so why is there even a min # at all at lv90? There should be no need for that. Let skilled ppl do things their own way.

What happened to doing it the old way of finding and replacing ppl till u get 5-6 that need a climb and dying until you figure out how to beat it?

If you were on the Leviathan Server I'd help, Nyzul Isle is pretty fun and its a nice change from Abyssea.

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Originally Posted by Kogenta

I don't see the problem on Nyzul isle. I recently helped a LS member getting his 100 in a month, and we did it as a set of 4 people, once a week 4 tags 20 floors per day. 3 DD and 1 RDM, with the occasional friend helping as another RDM. All 3 DDs need clear and got it. DRG WAR DRK.

I honestly don't like all of this "silver plate" stuff. You just need to spread word between your friends that you are looking for people that need nyzul and people will join. If you don't have friends, do some

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Two problems with that.

A) Practically no one on the Fenrir Server is willing to help (due to Abyssea)
B) The people who do wish to help need to do it themselves and usually don't even have the damn staging point.

Everyone has different experiences. You just happened to have the good kind.

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Originally Posted by Carth

Two problems with that.

A) Practically no one on the Fenrir Server is willing to help (due to Abyssea)
B) The people who do wish to help need to do it themselves and usually don't even have the damn staging point.

Everyone has different experiences. You just happened to have the good kind.

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Goes back to the point of keep trying till people get it done. If you can't find people try harder, If they don't have the staging point then you run them out there. They get the staging point and you get someone that needs nyzul and will probably work with you. Not singling you out carth so please don't take it that way but the best way to get nyzul done is to just chip away at it until people find a solution that works for them instead of asking SE to hit the easy button.

I've been trying (ever since 75 cap). I'm actually more appalled at my server than anything. You'd think at level 90 this would be a breeze but instead it seems like nothing has changed, if not just gotten worse.

I've been thinking about using my old linkshell to prioritize the use of old content and stray away from Abyssea since everyone does that anyway, but I get the feeling it'll never grow. Nevermind I'd feel kinda selfish for doing so.

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Originally Posted by Miera

If you were on the Leviathan Server I'd help, Nyzul Isle is pretty fun and its a nice change from Abyssea.

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I agree, I find that doing nyzul is actually pretty fun. It feels really good when your group simply works, and everything is going smooth as silk, and you do a boss run with enough leftover time to do 2-3 extra floors.

What I find problematic however, is that for the earlier floors, I've usually had a hard time finding good players. I'm not hating on nyzul newbies, cause I am one myself, but it only makes sense that people who need the first floors aren't as good at doing nyzul as those that have already gotten to the top. Coincidencially, these people are also the ones who are likely to join when I shout for a floor 11+ climb. If I could assemble a run with 4 nyzul veterans and just 2 nyzul newbies, I am sure most runs would be no problem. Of course, I can still get all newbies with me and just trial and error until we all get better, but the problem is that this wastes a lot of assault tags, and knowing that you only have a certain amount of tries per week makes it even more frustrating and demoralizing to fail a run.

A lowered assault tag recharge time is a welcome change, I hope they implement it. At the very least, it'll make the learning process go faster.

Yes please remove restrictions on assault tags!!

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Originally Posted by Carth

Two problems with that.

A) Practically no one on the Fenrir Server is willing to help (due to Abyssea)
B) The people who do wish to help need to do it themselves and usually don't even have the damn staging point.

Everyone has different experiences. You just happened to have the good kind.

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It's not Abyssea's fault if people don't want to help their friends with Nyzul. You can't blame new content for being interesting/rewarding/relevant/whatever-it-is-that-makes-it-popular. Instead, blame old content if it's so uninteresting/dull/mindless/annoying/tedious/un-fun/etc that no one wants to go anywhere near it once the new thing is out.

That said, most ToAU content is actually pretty fun and I have a hard time imagining people refusing to do it "because it's obsolete". Einherjar is fun, Salvage is fun, Assaults and Nyzul are fun, and they're all easy with fairly minimal time commitments and low numerical requirements. I've never really had any trouble getting people together for random runs into ToAU content when someone needs something.

It's not like you need a linkshell for it, either =/. If you have 2 friends, go do stuff with them. If you don't have 2 friends, ouch; can't do much there, it's an MMO after all. If you have 2 friends but you can't actually clear old content (you and/or they suck, incompatible job combinations, poor attitudes/clashing, etc), improve yourselves. It's not at all difficult or time consuming to become functional at a basic level in FFXI, which is more than sufficient to clear Nyzul/Assaults. Most of it is just making macros and learning what to equip when.

2c : Finished trioing Nyzul 1-100 less than a week ago for a friend; MNK SAM WHM. It's insanely easy in its current form, and there's always been the chance that you'll get retarded floors.

I originally climbed to 100 in pure pickup group shouts back in the 75 cap because I couldn't get a 'static' group to do it; but now at 90, there really isn't any reason anyone can't grab 2 friends and go have some fun.