[dev1010] Puppetmaster adjustments.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

When you can oneshot mobs with 6k nukes like a BLM, the time between them doesn't matter, the mob's already dead. None of my close friends play BLM

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No overall DPS is the reason that the blm pup head CANNOT out nuke a real blm and the fact that you have never seen a blm before i guess proves that. I mean im totally glad you can barely one shot a pudding and all but your not winning any dps awards with that.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

There was no change of story. It's what I was getting at from the beginning.

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than please take 1 post to make a point not 3 and some arguing and some story changing. because withdrawing was no where in your 1st post but when your old argument wasn't holding up anymore you changed it. soo you in fact did change your story bro.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

You constantly speak against any non-DD use of the job, so you shouldn't be using mage puppets at all or you're a hypocrite.

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DPS
in solo means lasting for more S to deal more D..... nothing hypocritical about it.

even if it is true that we can control ours maton, it is silly that it can and will do something useless as silence a crab.

it is like if you have a whm friend that cast silence on a crab. you can tell him to stop every single time he does it...but you expect that he knows to not do it.

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Originally Posted by Lushipur

even if it is true that we can control ours maton, it is silly that it can and will do something useless as silence a crab.

it is like if you have a whm friend that cast silence on a crab. you can tell him to stop every single time he does it...but you expect that he knows to not do it.

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I do not mean to dispute this. I only mean to say that you can avoid it- Just like you can avoid things like overloading (which really shouldn't exist IMO). It's simply working with the cards we've been dealt Nowhere am I saying they should not change or improve anything here.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

I do not mean to dispute this. I only mean to say that you can avoid it- Just like you can avoid things like overloading (which really shouldn't exist IMO). It's simply working with the cards we've been dealt Nowhere am I saying they should not change or improve anything here.

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this.

we have two task as pup community.

to address to the dev what can be improved and needs to be fixed.
to help the new pup to use ours tools in the smartest way.

what i disagree with your posts is that it accomplish just the second task. like if there is no need to fix the problem.

i totally agree that overload is totallly unnecessary even if now we have enough tools to totally avoid it. its just somethings that prevent new ppl to play the job right. at least cor have an immediate way to know if they are going to bust. just need to know how to do sums. pup cant.

Ya ignoring the problems won't make them go away, finding inconveniant was around them while constantly telling yourself everything is as it should be is also a bad way to go about things. What we need is SE to step up and listen to our problems and finally deal with them, I don't care about what little tricks you know for handling the stupid AI it doesn't change the fact that a Auto should never ever cast silence on any mob that cant cast spells, it also should never cast a na spell on you when your hp is in the red but you got blind, and most importantly if your friend/family member/party member is tanking a mob and you get hit and turned to yellow and he's in orange it should be smart enough to realize that the one with most hate is gonna need to be kept up first or at least let us say to it "Hey, i need you to help him first ok." I mean if a bst can set what ability his pet, a creature that thinks for himself can use then why cant we, the people who CONTROL!!!!! or robots tell it what to do and how to do it. Thats all that needs to be said on this whole conversation.

Can someone answer why pupmasters tend to be soloist exp makers but when it comes to animators and equipment drops you have to get a group together. Einherjar min 6 players, Ashu Talif min 3 players, Voidwalker nm while technically you can go solo its not advisable. So I guess you should just keep using the animator and crappy equipment on your puppet cos unless you are a puppet master there is limited stuff the other players want or need to make them want to go help .While we at it wheres the weapon skill for puppet masters. Yes we only have B weapons but make something A rated so we can get our own weaponskill trial.

I don't know about you but I didn't play PUP to be a "solo job." It, like every other job, should be wanted and desired for events.

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Yes we only have B weapons but make something A rated so we can get our own weaponskill trial.

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Skill level has nothing to do with it. Every job can reach the requisite skill in any weapon now. If you want a "weaponskill trial", then go get Victory Smite or Stringing Pummel. but that's been beaten to death in another thread already.

We don't really need A skill (A was originally planned but they dropped it back a notch from the promise probably for balance reasons). We don't really need anything in particular, just new stuff really. I don't see how PUP can become much stronger vertically without becoming potentially overpowered in certain situations. We can however become stronger horizontally, that is be capable of a wider repertoire of tasks, by adding a new frame/head or improving/fixing existing ones to grant us better control.

I guess its different people for different styles . I love the fact my puppet can solo rather than get into the constant battles over who can lot what in a group. There are lots of groups that break up before everyone in the said group get what they want. Its usually the first few people to get the item you want, quit and leave and you end up still without the item you wanted.

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I love the fact my puppet can solo rather than get into the constant battles over who can lot what in a group. There are lots of groups that break up before everyone in the said group get what they want.

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That's a pretty selfish reason to like the job.

There are just as many groups that do not break up or get into "constant battles" over drops. Something tells me you might be the initiator of these battles or cause of the groups breaking up.

I've been in a group doing abyssea for many months. There are no battles over who gets what, and everyone has gotten a fair share out of the group. The leaders are quite selfless and put others ahead of themselves. I realize groups like that don't come along every day, but they are worth looking for. As long as you don't join a group and demand all kinds of stuff the first day, and don't whine about not getting stuff in that amount of time, you generally find yourself getting a lot more from groups than if you cry, moan and whine every fight.

Besides that, by soloing everything, your odds of getting any drop are probably worse than your odds of getting something with a group.

To everyone who says stuff like this, I always ask: Why are you playing an MMO if all you want to do is solo? Isn't it supposed to be more fun to play with and chat with others? Don't get me wrong, being able to solo is a valuable tool. But many things that can be soloed are still better done by a group.

You are insulting if you think I am the instigator. That is just not the case. Every one knows groups that break up. How many times do you help people. I have helped many many people in the game. I spent 2 years in dynamis and saw many many people leave as soon as they got what they wanted. We ended up doing the same zones only to have the people leave when they got their stuff. Being a soloist is being selfish. Its about proving what you can do on your own, ie how to be the very best at a job without outside help. Puppetmaster isnt my only job, but its the only job I want to solo on.