Can we have Bahamut as a Summon PLEASE?

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He is and I would gladly accept him no question, but eh after all we SMNs have endured we deserve to be able to summon down the teary-eyed fury of Altana as well!

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Incoming WOTG spoliler!!!!!!!

Pretty sure caitsith was born from Altana's tears when she saw what happened to Lilith's dimension. Therefore, since SE promised we could summon caitsith, we will be able to summon the teary-eyed fury of Altana...see what I did there. I really have my hopes up for caitsith, hopefully he is strong. And Atomos as a 2hr summon better not be no dang demi or stat drain. Speaking of Demi, Rominus Omen needs a serious buff. Or perhaps I just never used it right meh.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Just like DRK needs more moves to weaken arcana.

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See, this guy gets it.

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Originally Posted by Camiie

Remember these are avatars of gods, they're not the gods themselves. You're only summoning a portion of their power. It would make a lot of sense to have the Bahamut we summon be much smaller than the real Bahamut. The size thing just doesn't seem like a very valid reason to me.

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I don't recall them saying they were alligned with any gods.

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Originally Posted by Bubeeky

they already stated a long time ago that Bahamut wouldn't ever become a summon, because they'd have to scale down his size to fit into dungeons, and that would detract from his diety style appearance.

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A good excuse, except they've scaled down all the avatars in terms of size and power. What's one more?

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Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji

I don't recall them saying they were alligned with any gods.

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Not all our avatars are representations of gods (which is what an avatar is supposed to be) but many are. The Celestial avatars are considered gods. The Terrestrials are actually empowered beings who would lose their power and sentience if Vana'diel was ever replaced with Paradise. I'm not really sure where Alexander and Odin fit in to that alignment. They do seem to either be considered or consider themselves gods at least.

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Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji

I don't recall them saying they were alligned with any gods.

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See above. >.> Need to read up on avatar and summoner lore.

Yeah, I'd like to see the new 'second 2-hour ability' for SMN be a Bahamut summon. I'm down with the idea of making it dangerous or even impractical. Maybe it does AoE damage to everyone randomly (including teammates). It could be like those spells in Final Fantasy Tactics that hit an area randomly- it may hit three of your party members and not hit the enemy, or it might hit three enemies and one party member, or w/e (idea would be to get your party far away). Regardless, it really should be a summon. Even if no one uses it, playing SMN without the ability to summon Bahamut at the highest levels just wrong.

Do I need to remind you that Bahamut wants us DEAD? You got more chance getting Promathia as a pet summon...

The next two summons that SMN gets are Cait Sith and Atomos, if I'm not mistaken, with Atomos being a 2hr summon.

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Originally Posted by Kristal

Do I need to remind you that Bahamut wants us DEAD? You got more chance getting Promathia as a pet summon...

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If that's the deciding factor then the only avatar we should have is Carbuncle.

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Originally Posted by Camiie

If that's the deciding factor then the only avatar we should have is Carbuncle.

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None of the avatars wants the sentient races removed from Vana'diel. Most of them aren't even awake.

Bahamut is a physical being, and the wyrm king wouldn't cater to the whims of mortals, even if they proved themselves capable of stopping Promathia. If we were no longer able to defy Bahamut and contain Promathia, Bahamut would wipe out all mortals on Vana'diel to stop Promathia from gaining more power.