Rune Fencer & Ninja ~ Small Idea to Make it a Real Tank

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

No, I'm not the one who brought that up. Go back and read the thread.

Then I suggest you go by what was specifically written on the wiki and see how that works for you. If you try it and test it and it does nothing, you can come back and laugh in all our faces going HA HA UR WRONG HA HA all day long. Til then, stop acting like everyone has to be wrong because... no reason other than they must be wrong! You're the first person i've ever seen in the game or on any forum to suggest that charm is anything other than light based.

Every rule has exceptions, there are the occasional nm or other thing that inflicts a status with an ability of a different element than is typical. Some might even be non-elemental, and the only thing that might work is a specific resistance to the status effect or an item that gives resistance to all bad statuses. But at least as far as the charm status as it can be inflicted by a player, all the sources of it are light based (BST ability, and Maiden's Virelai BRD song)

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Go by what was specifically written on the wiki? That's what got me into this mess. I'm not the one who changed the ffxiclopedia page over a year ago. The BGwiki page for the charm status effect is a stub, and the pages for Nerrivik and Hyoscya don't list elements for their charm either.

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Originally Posted by Ulth

Go by what was specifically written on the wiki? That's what got me into this mess. I'm not the one who changed the ffxiclopedia page over a year ago. The BGwiki page for the charm status effect is a stub, and the pages for Nerrivik and Hyoscya don't list elements for their charm either.

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Have you done the RUN AF quest that I mentioned? I'm pretty sure you can go back and re-do the CS at a BRD in that zone. Why not just Replay it until you find out the answer to that specific question, but I'm pretty sure it's listed their because someone had to answer the question originally.

But on other testable things, The SCH ability Stormsurge bestows bonuses based on the the storm spell cast. The Aurorastorm giving a boost to CHR, which has been stated by NPC in game that CHR improves Charm/BRD Song ACC through transitive property, Charm should also be Light, but not that anyone is tallying

Charm is light based.

The community knows this.

If you don't want to believe it, you don't have to. Believe whatever you want. End of story.

God, I can't believe this thread turned into a guy arguing what element charm was because he was so mad other people didn't agree with him.

Please tell me this is a joke nin and run are fine yes not as kick butt as us plds but I have seen nins tank just fine and in incursion for a matter of fact and runs just add to it. as a back up tank i will forever take a run or nin if i cant get a pld. If nins and runs know how to play the class they are in many ways better then us plds. But that is only if they know like we used to say that they know the job.

so the fact that you are saying that nin and run need this big of an update look at it again. Yes nin and run do need updates but I think this would make them way to over powered.