Can we please lessen the unGodly Restrictions for Mythic weapons!?

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Originally Posted by Zeargi

Then you're reading something wrong, or you're simple inept. I've done work. I've done an *** ton of work. I hunted down the 3 Kings alone, I've cleared the salvages, I've made one of the pops for the T4 ZNM, and working on the 2nd now, I've soloed 23 out of the 26 assaults that I've completed, I formed a party and got the clear for Odin. So stop being some high and mighty elitist. I never said any of the things you're implying, so STFU! I'm tired of being bully and picked on for SE crappy design. If the GAME says: REQUIREMENTS: 1-6 that means that 1 person should be able to do it. That's my problem, 1 person CAN NOT. I've joined 3 LS and most of them are far to busy spamming crap that requires RNG, COR, or some other job I don't have ready. They changed the number of people required because there are less and less people. But the system is still flawed if I still can't complete it. They need to either allow for do-overs up to a certain amount of times, a way to gain an extra chance, add time for X# of players, or/and some assaults so that their mechanics can be done without the aid of someone else.

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So you did all the easiest parts of building one of the best pieces of equipment and think this entails "a ton of work".

Mythics being hard is part of the compromise between casual and hardcore gamers. There's got to be something that takes effort, that people can feel proud of, while still allowing for casual content that less dedicated players can do. Again I ask: you knew what the requirements to get a mythic would be. Why did you go into it?

I know a WHM who has had Yagrush since late 2010. He did all this stuff when defeating the 3 Beastmen kings was difficult, when Salvage, Nyzul, and Assault were not soloable, and when you got like 1/10th the zeni. I coveted the Yagrush but I knew that actually obtaining one was hard. So for a long time I just accepted it as something out of my reach and played my WHM very well with a lot of good equipment that did not include the Yagrush. Eventually, I was fortunate enough to join an active linkshell, and when I surmised that building a mythic might be within my grasp, only then did I do it.

What I did not do was start out with your attitude of "I must have this. I deserve to have this. I will have this." That's just a recipe for disaster.

The system could possibly use some tweaking to make it more viable solo. I wouldn't mind adjusting some of the unsoloable Assaults to scale down, or letting you trade in Copper AMAN Vouchers for 500 Tokens. It shouldn't be easy, but I do think there's room to make it more solo friendly, because of declining server populations and the tendency to make a lot of other stuff more solo friendly.

I agree that the Tag System for Assault and Nyzul needs to be adjusted.
Other than that... the rest of the mythic quest is suppose to be long and drawn out.
They are the apex weapon for each job that has one.
If SE would simply allow tags to accrue endlessly like voidstones, abyssea stones, etc, then that would solve many problems with the whole thing.
Working on my second mythic and the only things that slows me down is the tags.... it is absolutely silly to have them limited when we have so many other things that are similar that are not limited.
I'm not saying lower the rate at which they accrue, just let us accrue one per day but not stop at 4 (5 if you have one on you). Just let them pile up! :D that is what I would like to see. :)

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Originally Posted by Zeargi

Then why bother changing the requirements at all? Hmm? My thinking isn't flawed. If the GAME DESIGNERS, change a requirement then they see that there's a problem with an element in the game. Legion, Delve, the level cap for story battles... changed. Why is this? Oh yeah, because people couldn't get the number of people that they need to do something because their weren't enough people to actually do it. I've been shouting for a linkshell. I've gone to the different Linkshell distribution people. So stop being a tool, when I'm doing work to get things done the best I can. I'm not asking for a free ride, I'm ask for a re-evaluation of a system that is still has its design based around there being an @$$ton of people to help.

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it wasn't designed for as you put it "an @$$ton of people". Assaults are designed for 3-6 people. They didn't change the "requirement" as you put it, they just changed how many are the "minimum to access". Minimum required to access does not necessarily equal the minimum required to complete. And how about you get over yourself. If you want to get the assaults done, and your obviously lacking personality can't convince people to help you, then make it worth people's effort to come help you. Pay people to do it. Most people can make about a million gil in about half an hour of time. So offer at least a million gil per person to help you with the one or two assaults that you can't solo. Pretty sure you will get people to help you then.

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Originally Posted by Segagamer

While they're at it, they should reduce all dyna currency needed for relics by 80% and let you stay in dynamis and slavage indefinitely with triple gears that respawn every 3 minutes.

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Originally Posted by Malithar

Thread is silly, but curious about the third. Rdm and Rng (I'm actually curious how well they'd perform with Trueflight now) are a given, what's the third?

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Originally Posted by Zarchery

How about you just not get a mythic weapon if it's too tough for you? There's a reason for the stiff requirements. These weapons are very powerful. I know, I know. A thing exists and you want it so you have the inherent right to have it. But maybe you should reframe and deal with not always getting what you want.

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Originally Posted by Shirai

You want the best weapon? Prepare to put time into it, oh, you don't.
That's all I am reading, "I don't want to do this work". Well, then don't and move on. You're not finding any support or sympathy here.

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Originally Posted by Shirai

If you reply to the people in game as you have been replying to the good people here I can see why you have so much trouble with getting the hand full of things done that happen to need an extra soul or 2.

I really do not want to come over as rude, but the only problem I spot here is you.

The nature of this game is still to play with other people, and the fact that levels and gear enabled people to solo a couple of them doesn't change that nature.

And with this I will leave this convetsation because I have better things and smarter people to spend my time on.

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So me getting heated about people that belittle me isn't okay, people should be allowed to trounce all over me? Honestly, when was the last time any of you helped someone, just to help them? If I can help people, I try my very best to do so. But the perhaps you should look equally at others response to ME too. While my OP was fervorous from the 3 loses in a row in assault, only 2 messages in I receive a message that's snarky and rude. I tried to show gratitude for the people in Besieged not killing the King by posting the time of Death for Gulool Ja Ja, what do I get: "Oh that's not needed, it's been nerfed". I find a Warhorse Hoof Print, I give its location. My apologize that I missed the Assault Train the first time around, but I'm not above asking for help if people are willing to give it. But if I can't get the help, what am I suppose to do? Also your first reply in this is hardly what I'd call 'Good People' reply.

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Originally Posted by Zeargi

So me getting heated about people that belittle me isn't okay, people should be allowed to trounce all over me? Honestly, when was the last time any of you helped someone, just to help them? If I can help people, I try my very best to do so. But the perhaps you should look equally at others response to ME too. While my OP was fervorous from the 3 loses in a row in assault, only 2 messages in I receive a message that's snarky and rude. I tried to show gratitude for the people in Besieged not killing the King by posting the time of Death for Gulool Ja Ja, what do I get: "Oh that's not needed, it's been nerfed". I find a Warhorse Hoof Print, I give its location. My apologize that I missed the Assault Train the first time around, but I'm not above asking for help if people are willing to give it. But if I can't get the help, what am I suppose to do? Also your first reply in this is hardly what I'd call 'Good People' reply.

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The reason you're getting replies like this is because you're asking for mythics to take near to no time/effort to complete.

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Originally Posted by Zarchery

What I did not do was start out with your attitude of "I must have this. I deserve to have this. I will have this." That's just a recipe for disaster.

The system could possibly use some tweaking to make it more viable solo. I wouldn't mind adjusting some of the unsoloable Assaults to scale down, or letting you trade in Copper AMAN Vouchers for 500 Tokens. It shouldn't be easy, but I do think there's room to make it more solo friendly, because of declining server populations and the tendency to make a lot of other stuff more solo friendly.

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And that's all I'm asking for, Is the assaults or the way to gain ID Tags be looked at. I'm not asking for some cake wake thing. Simple an adjustment to time in assaults such as Lebros Supplies, or that the lamps don't turn off in Evade and Escape. Or at least let me get a Re-do if I'm under the rank of Captain. Like I said, I'm will to do the leg work, I just want either the help to do, or the means to do it at all. I saw someone today, with a Bazaar message Emyprean 16, Relic 10, Mythic 8. I know it's doable. and it's something I want to do. I want to make a relic. When I get time. I go do dynamis, and sell the currency I don't need to get closer. I want to get my jobs reforged. I've been working to skill WHM, BRD, GEO, RNG, and MNK so I can join peoples shouts. Otherwise, I'm farm sparks to get the chapters I can't get. I don't want this to come off as me just attacking you, because that's not my intent, I just don't want everyone to think/treat like I'm just some 'lazy casual' wanting a hand out. I'm not some stone wall that I have to have it my exact way, any type of re-evaluation is at least SOMETHING.

doesn't need a re-evaluation. it's fine just the way it is.

or rather scratch that... with our higher levels and therefore higher capability they should make things more difficult. it is way too easy now.

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Originally Posted by Segagamer

The reason you're getting replies like this is because you're asking for mythics to take near to no time/effort to complete.

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Again, you're misunderstanding me, Boss. I'm not asking that ALL the thing I suggest be implemented. I'm still a Sergeant, so I can read up on all this stuff, but until I actually do them. I don't know which ones I need the help on. once I get to the end, I'll have that knowledge and can reapply it to the second go around. But with this NNI event going on, people don't want to spend their tags to help out. It's not profitable, not that everything has to be. All I'm asking for is simple this: If the ID Tag system is gonna stay, perhaps make it so you you can recover 1 by doing a once a RL day repeatable quest, or perhaps make so you buy the entry into Nyzul Isle with assault points like you do with Salvage. And I want to apologize to you and everyone else, I'm sorry for flying of the gun. I know that people worked hard to get the things they want. I'm just asking for help. I want help. I'll take anything. Any notice, any idea that someone wants to lay down, something to make progress.

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Originally Posted by Sapphire

I have every Mythic requirement done save the Alex. Which if I put my mind to it I could farm/buy.

I still need more than half my riftdross for my harp and even with money THERE IS ALMOST NONE TO BUY. And farming it isn't a realistic option.

I disagree that an Empy is easier than a Mythic. :P

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Farming is a realistic option, I have been playing with people who farmed their dross. Yes, it means doing Voidwatch all the time and organizing groups but people do it regularly on Asura.

I think in terms of mythics they really need to up the number of tags we get a day or make normal assaults not take tags... then at least folks wouldn't have to wait on tags - I could even see "assault climb" groups forming then because you could knock out so many at once.

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Originally Posted by Tidis

loads of mythics are already being made, I can't see the need to lower the requirements.

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The vast majority of post-SoA mythics were not made legitimately.