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03-22-2011, 09:39 PM
viion

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Originally Posted by NightDagger

exactly right.

I went out & bought the game for 360 due to the poor graphics on my PS2. But we have to realize something here. The PS2 was the original release. It is hard for a company to drop their "baby". Now i have been trying to find a mod that you could do to the PS2 to increase the RDRAM. It is possible but just how far can you go?

Another thing I am curious is why would they not make it for PS3, I am unable to find the exact reason so if someone could enlighten me that would be great.

because they prefer to do xiv on ps3 most likely, plus ps3 with backward compact works just fine.
03-22-2011, 09:39 PM
NightDagger

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Originally Posted by Nephilipitou

There are people playing this game on PS2 who can't afford a netbook or don't even have a 5 year old computer? This game isn't taxing. A 200-300 dollar netbook can do it. They could even get a 360 to play it since you don't have to have an XBLG account to play FFXI. I'd like to see what the minimum PC specs to getting it functioning at or better than PS2 quality would take.

But if they can't afford to get a computer that is powerful enough to play FFXI I think they have much more important problems than not being able to play Abyssea content. Like having virtually no money. I'm sure if they pawned off stuff they didn't need, use, or sell some of their old games, they could get enough money to buy a computer powerful enough.

I don't think those arguments are valid.

I am lucky I own all gaming consoles. I do not own a PC I have a Mac. I prefer the Mac over PC any day. But I am unable to play a lot of games & refuse to run windows 7 on bootcamp again. You have to use a 3rd party UI or smtp program to control the fans or else you fry the HDD, CPU & the such (my wife did that 6 months ago). So it is not worth the money to "hope" my wife remembers to turn the fan speed up.
03-22-2011, 09:41 PM
rog

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Originally Posted by NightDagger

So it is not worth the money to "hope" my wife remembers to turn the fan speed up.

It's too much work to set a program to start up with windows to do it automagically...?
03-22-2011, 09:42 PM
NightDagger

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Originally Posted by viion

because they prefer to do xiv on ps3 most likely, plus ps3 with backward compact works just fine.

Not alot of them in circulation, but heard it is not all that great anyways. I would be interested in a PS3 release not just PS2 game on new system.

But on another note, has SE ever stated why they never made PS3 version? (instead of a lot of peoples opinions)
03-22-2011, 09:46 PM
NightDagger

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Originally Posted by rog

It's too much work to set a program to start up with windows to do it automagically...?

best i was able to do was have ifan run at start up but it reset to default values. So I had to teach my wife how to use dos to set fan speed to around 3000rpm & get the cpu speed to 2200 & video card speed to 3500.

Best alternative is smc fan, which you either setup manually or boot into OSX and then into windows so the sms fan will copy the OSX settings. would love to find a good UI that allows me to create a statup setting.
03-22-2011, 09:48 PM
rog

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Originally Posted by NightDagger

best i was able to do was have ifan run at start up but it reset to default values. So I had to teach my wife how to use dos to set fan speed to around 3000rpm & get the cpu speed to 2200 & video card speed to 3500.

Best alternative is smc fan, which you either setup manually or boot into OSX and then into windows so the sms fan will copy the OSX settings. would love to find a good UI that allows me to create a statup setting.

Try speedfan
03-22-2011, 09:58 PM
NightDagger

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Originally Posted by rog

Try speedfan

Not available for mac, PC only. So in windows I can download & run it but it is unable to pick up all my sensors & gives me zero fan control. That is by far the best UI I have seen just wish they would hurry up & make it MAC supported.

Thanks for the suggestions though.
03-22-2011, 10:02 PM
Emitremmus

A good example of the limitations of PS2 vs. 360/PC can be easily demonstrated.

If you have both console types you will notice that on a PS2 if you change the background of your windows, it will take a good 3-6 seconds before your window background will actually change. On the 360 and PC, the background will immediately change to what you have selected.

Also what I have researched and have heard is that the current programming for FFXI does not support a 3 digit level number for your character. This explains level 99 instead of 100. It also leads me to believe that there are set variables for the game that would take a lot of time and effort to implement and change, not to mention you would probably have to do a complete reinstall of FFXI. This would suck for PS2 players. What ultimately holds us back via PS2 is the amount of information that can be displayed on screen at once, which is already bewildering considering our massive amounts of menus that reside in the background. Perhaps if some things were only viewable in mog house they could free up a bit of memory in order to implement some new jobs or something of that caliber. This is merely speculation on my part however, and I'm no FFXI programmer.

Just some insight for some of those who might not understand the memory (not storage space) limitations of the PS2.
03-22-2011, 10:05 PM
Coldbrand

99 is FF tradition and how it should be.
03-22-2011, 10:07 PM
rog

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Originally Posted by Emitremmus

A good example of the limitations of PS2 vs. 360/PC can be easily demonstrated.

If you have both console types you will notice that on a PS2 if you change the background of your windows, it will take a good 3-6 seconds before your window background will actually change. On the 360 and PC, the background will immediately change to what you have selected.

That is not even sort of a an example of ps2 limitations (let alone a good one).

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Also what I have researched and have heard is that the current programming for FFXI does not support a 3 digit level number for your character. This explains level 99 instead of 100. It also leads me to believe that there are set variables for the game that would take a lot of time and effort to implement and change, not to mention you would probably have to do a complete reinstall of FFXI. This would suck for PS2 players. What ultimately holds us back via PS2 is the amount of information that can be displayed on screen at once, which is already bewildering considering our massive amounts of menus that reside in the background. Perhaps if some things were only viewable in mog house they could free up a bit of memory in order to implement some new jobs or something of that caliber. This is merely speculation on my part however, and I'm no FFXI programmer.

Just some insight for some of those who might not understand the memory (not storage space) limitations of the PS2.

No. It can support 3 digit levels, however jobs like drk will not fit on the equipment screen (http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/l...dc3126fddd.png), but other than that, it would work fine, without changing any code (except to remove the level cap)

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