This isnt an MMORPG anymore.

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Originally Posted by Arcon

And Neo-Salvage looks like it may not be either, from what we've seen so far.

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I've trioed every Neo Salvage zone, thats with the other guy dual boxxing. It's completely lowmannable.

Edit: Replied before reading when it was posted. However, I do agree that this game has gone too much toward people dual boxxing.

tl;dr version: Lol. Sigh.

"We" presume a lot.

The forums have time and time again beaten down trolls trying to advocate level capping Abyssea and nerfing leeching.

I love the leeching system and I have leveled up a few jobs using it now. Jobs I never would have taken the time to, given the old xp way. I am an old school soloer and I would place my level of play skill on par with anyone's. And I leech. Leech =/= unskilled. In fact, quite the opposite. As has been stated before, people that leech multiple jobs are those that are usually in the best position to utilize them.

I agree with parts of your tirade. I feel low-manning should be discouraged in an MMO. The game, however, is designed to be the most rewarding to those that low-man or multi-box. Why share the spoils when you can divvy them up in a way you have complete control over? The situation of waiting literally YEARS for a rare drop because of its rarity, lotting rights issues and attendance has been all but eradicated.

If old school xp, Abyssea level caps and waiting lists for gear suddenly became the new standard, the game would die off within a few months. Why? Because most of the people that shared a mind with you have already jumped ship. You are the vocal minority declaring themselves to be a majority despite mass criticism.

I don't agree with the topic creator.

SE, thank you for making some new content accessible and enjoyable for a party of 3-6. Meebles is fun. Salvage II feels just challenging enough that you have to make sure you don't run out of time collecting all your plans or be too reckless. I really love it.

I don't get the appeal of the "old days," honestly. We all know it was difficult and time-consuming, but not often in a good way. My opinion, I guess.

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Originally Posted by Chocobits

I agree with parts of your tirade. I feel low-manning should be discouraged in an MMO.

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1.Other games have (cross server) pt search function, this game doesn't. And it's often 100x harder to make an ally for anything on none prime time.

2.I usually play between 9PM~10 or 11PM my time, sometimes even later. 90% of time when I log on in this game, every LS member/friends either go to bed, about to go to bed, or already joined another pt to do their stuff. If I can't solo/dual box, there's nothing I can do except sitting in port Jeuno and afk. I can go /shout for a salvage 2 pt, but 99% of time I'm not going to get any reply, or maybe it will take 2hr to get reply and by that time I have to go to bed again.

3. I'm not sure if anyone is interested in paying 13$ a month so you can afk in PJ and do nothing. I pay to play, to make progress, not sit in PJ and do nothing, or /shout for 2hr to make pt to do anything.

If you feel low-manning should be discouraged in an MMO, that's fine by me. But please come up with a solution that I can actually do the damn content and make progress instead of sitting in PJ and do nothing just because I can't get ppl. Low-man content, no matter how you dislike it, or how you feel it's bad, it's still better than no content(can't do anything). I haven't been able to do larger scale event such as legion because all the english speaking player(EST timezone) won't play when I log on, I don't play in EU timzone, and JPs don't play with outsiders. Not sure what's so enjoyable in an MMORPG if you just log on and can't do anything.

MMORPG should have soloable/lowman-able content period. If you want group event go do legion/odin2 or NNI. But you shouldn't take the option away for those who doesn't want to afk in PJ.

FFXI is an old game. As much as I'd love to see cross-server matchmaking and such, it's unlikely to happen.

People low-man if they can, simply because if they succeed they don't have a hard time splitting drops.
Except Abyssea, most reward systems are not friendly enough to want to bring a bunch of people.
If you CAN lowman something, you're probably at least somewhat skilled and/or geared. Tons of people suck at this game, and it's easy to differentiate who does and doesn't.

In the end, why bother with this topic now? Complaining about current content when there's an entire expansion coming is silly.

in response to the OP, personally i find that the difficulty of the game has only risen post 75. nothing was really that hard pre 75 anyways, other than actually claiming hnm tbh. dynamis was easy, pull a bunch of mobs > sleepga > 2 pld pull a couple from the slept group > DD rapega. limbus wasn't much harder, didn't even need full alliance to farm. hnm were easy kills after you got the claim. yea missions could be a pain in the ass before, but even then you still either could only bring 6 ppl, or it didn't warrant a larger group than that anyways (excepting a few where more ppl basically garunteed a win).

yea abyssea is easy content i'll admit, but really so is everything else in this game. the only hard content, like everyone has already said, is legion and nni (and nni is only hard cause it's so dependant on luck). one could actually argue that it wasn't until post abyssea that anything difficult was added. these are just my own opinions, thus not fact, and it's not like i was some pro elite player either. i had some good gear, and a few really nice pieces at 75 endgame, but nothing like relic weapons or salvage gear. the content just wasn't that hard cause strategy actually mattered then and was utilized.

yes your right you got a point, after 12 years now they put waypoint?

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Originally Posted by Umichi

i'm with you on this.... FFXI was a very hardcore game back in the day for endgame... i remember i changed my schedule at work just so i could get better times i could be on at (which meant i woke up at like 12am everyday)

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I changed my schedule to have my Dynamis day available, but then the shell broke.

Considering just about any systemic changes they have attempted literally crash the servers and break the game, I wouldn't get my hopes up for cross-server anything lol

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Originally Posted by Sunrider

(Hell Mode: Keep a party alive drunk... on WAR/WHM)

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Ah Yes Ghetto Paladin 101.