BST DoT increase: A modest suggestion

One vital fact that you're overlooking is that equiping gear that hastes the pet seriously gimps the master. I don't know about you, but my guttler and I out DD my pet significantly. 15% haste added to spur ever 1.5 minutes is minuscule compared to the reduction in DoT the master gets penalized by equiping gear that hastes the pet.

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Originally Posted by Malthar

One vital fact that you're overlooking is that equiping gear that hastes the pet seriously gimps the master.

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You're confusing vital with irrelevant. Don't use that gear then, even naked it's still over 15% gain in DPS.

You're missing the point. With gear the pet gains haste and consequently a higher DPS.
Conversely, with gear the master looses haste, attack, acc, etc and consequently looses significantly more DPS.
The master significantly out DD's the pet.
Both offenses added equal the total amount of damage.
The damage done with pet haste gear on the master vs haste gear for the master is less.
15% haste contribution to the pet without gear will not make the damage from the pet and master combined overpowered.

It's so simple, why can't you see that?
Or was my original estimation correct that you're a pet hating troll?

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Originally Posted by Malthar

You're missing the point of the original post. Haste will increase the pet's DoT. Pet TP moves do not do as much damage as regular mele over the same time it takes to get 100% tp. BST needs more damage. I'm a relic bst with a 95 guttler but whenever I ask to go bst in voidwatch I get laughed at. I've suggested allowing the pet to start / end skillchains to SE, but they are wan reluctant to accept that idea. So, I asked for increase haste. And 15% haste is not a ridiculous amount of haste. I'm aware that the +2 relic augmented pants can add 10% haste for it's 2hr. Personally, I think that should have been 15%. And other gear such as the anwig salade and e.feet can add a total of 8% haste extra, but that takes away from the master's DoT, which is a considerable sacrifice when wielding a guttler. The original post was to suggest increasing the pet's DoT so that bst can be more useful in end game events. I mean, come on! It's not a game breaker to give the pet a little more haste.

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I'm not missing the point, I know what the OP is asking for and it should not be added.

First, out of the pet jobs SMN is the DD class, BST is the tank class, so 15% is an insane amount of haste for a 5min ability.
Second, all spur does at the moment is increase STP, which suggests its an ability designed to increase ability frequency, which I understand, cause It will help the pet hold hate (hence my suggestion to change it to lower charge costs because increased ability uses means increased hate which is fitting for a tank class and It still also satisfies the OP's need for more damage to a lesser extent.

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Originally Posted by Malthar

You're missing the point. With gear the pet gains haste and consequently a higher DPS.
Conversely, with gear the master looses haste, attack, acc, etc and consequently looses significantly more DPS.

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It's common courtesy to read other people's posts before replying to them. You obviously didn't read mine. I said specifically that even with no Pet Haste gear at all the boost is still at least 15% (it's actually at least ~17.5%). So don't use any gear for it at all, it's still a large boost. With gear it would just be higher.

I'm pretty sure my original assessment was correct in that you're a BST fanboy who just wants his job to get better for no rhyme or reason. The only argument you've ever mentioned for it is that you didn't get invited to Voidwatch. This request is about as valid as me suggesting to boost WAR's damage by another 10% just because there was a SAM once who landed a higher Tachi: Shoha than my Ukko's Fury.

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Originally Posted by Malthar

Or was my original estimation correct that you're a pet hating troll?

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This. He talks like he's an authority on everything in the game when he's just another mook like the rest of us. It's pretty funny how important it is to him to point out how wrong we are about a hypothetical ability update and the far reaching consequences it could maybe, possibly have. You should see him ingame, the dude's a tool 24/7.

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Originally Posted by Arcon

You're confusing vital with irrelevant. Don't use that gear then, even naked it's still over 15% gain in DPS.

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I just had to quote this because it has got to be one of the most retarded things anyone has said in a discussion in an attempt to prove their point. Wow. You have wowed me, Sir.

I have to admit getting pretty 'tarded up in here.

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Originally Posted by Caketime

You should see him ingame, the dude's a tool 24/7.

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He's seen me ingame, unlike you.

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Originally Posted by Karbuncle

I have to admit getting pretty 'tarded up in here.

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Indeed.

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Originally Posted by Arcon

He's seen me ingame, unlike you.

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Leviathan's smaller than you think.