For those who keep resurrecting that dead topic....

Things always are changing. Unfortunately society does change. It has been 10 years since service for FFXI started. And guess what? A whole new generation of people are playing. Things cannot go back to the way they were, but we can always strive to lead by example. You are always the first thing you can change, if you choose to.

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Originally Posted by Luvbunny

LOL - another thread about nostalgia yet again.... Sorry but the game is like 10 times better now than it used to be. Fun, accessible, and enjoyable. They finally focus the grind on end game and less of a chore to level. Now you don't need to spend hours and hours to get things done. Traveling time has been cut down tremendously. You no longer need the help of many people just to get simple things done. Most missions can be done solo or trio at most. Voidwatch is no longer LS events exclusive but random shouts - quick to set up, and you can make the battle last 5 mnts with displacer. Dynamis is no longer LS exclusive, you can solo. Even making empy weapon is not as bad as it was before. The game is going to the right direction, let's hope it will become even easier, enjoyable and more casual friendly than ever before. I mean seriously, this is just a game, something to waste your time and relax, no need to make it such a big deal like you have to accomplish greater challenge etc... Nobody has time to dedicate playing video games, which bears no real value other than pure entertainment. Not everyone has no jobs and no life other than playing video games 24/7.

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Another poster complaining FFXI was to hard.

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Originally Posted by Plasticleg

Dynamis is still there to grab your alliance +1 and go wreck it.
They didn't remove Kirin.
AV and PW are still pop-able.
Odin75 can still make you money.

I don't see the argument here; unless all you did when cap was 75 was meripo or be a sheep for HNM claims.

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I just dont even know what to say here.

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Originally Posted by Myo

I like the game just as much as ever, but I do feel like they killed the leveling system 30+ when abyssea was introduced.

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No one's denying that. People are glad about it.

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Originally Posted by Ragmar

Another poster complaining FFXI was to hard.

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Another poster who thinks work ethics and video games are supposed to go together.

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Originally Posted by Mirage

Good thing that you guys who are missing the old school hardcore stuff now have the perfect event for you. Neo nyzul without cheats!

So what are you complaining about?

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The fact that no old content (aside from lvl 75 AV) had an instant "fuck you, you lose" mechanic that popped at random. Content that requires skill, and content that requires luck are two very different things.

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Originally Posted by Ragmar

Fact is fact. You dont see the majority of old school FFXI elite players on here begging for more easy buttons. You do however see the majority of those who were deemed gimp at 75 cap here praising/begging for more easy button madness.

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Lol, of course "the elite" aren't in here begging for easy buttons, they've already made their own. Or have you not been keeping up on the neo-nyzul threads on BG and Alla?

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Originally Posted by Ragmar

Another poster complaining FFXI was to hard.

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The game was never about "hard" content, the old school content was always and still is about massive grindastic time sink. It was never easy vs hard. Monsters have tons more hp while you are dealing a lot less damage. Everything was built around how much time they make you to complete things to make sure they can stretch events/content as long as they can possibly can and have to do menial ridiculous garbage quests or missions that take you through areas back and forth just to make sure you spend hours to complete simple things. It was never about skills...it is all about timing and comprehension of your job ability and when to push your macro button as well as understanding the monster tp moves and behavior. FFXI of yesteryears was built based on Everquest template. Abyssea took the game in 360 mode and put the new flavor derived from World of Warcraft. The game now is 10 times better because of it. You no longer need to dedicate much time playing it and can treat it as form of entertainment. It is meaningless, you are suppose to have fun, have a blast at killing things, get your stuffs, and be done with. Unless your form of fun is sitting idle looking for things to do, killing mob that takes an hour or more to kill, or shouting for hours only to find out half of the people cannot do it because they put many restrictive access....

Abyssea has fantastic game design, it is flawless and amazing. It's basically let everyone to experience all the content immediately and let people as low as lvl 30 to join in and have fun - leeching and whatnot. They created a tiered contents, and to experience the higher tier you must work forward to it. Every little things you do get rewarded one way or another. You no longer need to fork gaziliion milions gil for gears but simply have to work toward it little by little, it is work but there is hope at the end. People have something to look forward to. Even when you are done with plus 1, you get to do plus 2, and empyrean weapons - as well as all those accessories. It is also an amazing place to finish most of your magian trials weapons. A great place for blue mages to hunt spells. A boon for people trying to farm for crafts. Just amazing content overall. Personally I wish people would just get tired of Abyssea and move on already and leave that expansion alone, go away, vanish - this way I can have all the contents all for me and not have to worry about competition camping NMs :) Voidwatch is also designed well, sure it is mostly luck based - but they eliminate exclusivity and elitism, everyone can join, very easy to make random shout groups. And now they make it even more accessible by giving you options to use displacer.

"Abyssea has fantastic game design, it is flawless and amazing." "VW is is also designed well"

Yes a lvl 30 character with the use of one temp item laying waste to the highest lvl NM is flawless game design. Infinate auto reraise 3... Bottleneck after bottleneck designed to create artificial challenges is flawless game design. Even the dev's now understand how bad abyssea was for FFXI.

VW ... really!? Yeah I really enjoyed watching bodies LS members of mine needed rot in a box because I couldnt simply "add to pool". Now the gimp in the alliance that failed up the entire fight (or being afk) leeching off others getting the drop instead of my buddy who carried both their weight, thats just icing on the cake. Hey though if 5 people who already got the drop get it again, before he does, they can sell their tickets for millions upon millions each and he can pay 15-50M for it. That or he can spend more time doing VW than people used to spend camping HNMs yet still no closer to getting the drop. Meanwhile I go 1/1 on a body I'll never use that someone else just popped for the 300th and counting time. All this sounds like a dream come true.

Not just from you but all I read here is FFXI was too hard QQ easy buttons FTW!