What SE Has Done RIGHT with the Updates

to add (ps3 text limitations and no pc to log on to) Worst case of leeching i seen was aby la thaine worm party. That is the worst party to leech in though a person can solo worms. Having 5 pop on you and aggro can easily kill ya. I seen parties near wipe and disband after too many deaths. Another area is gusgen mines if the level sync is too low or someone pulls ghouls w/o thinking. Not fun watching your entire group die because the much needed healer decided to take it upon them selves and be a leech w/o saying. I'm not a picky person, just in my personal experience i see more bad then good come from leeching. Not to mention certain jobs can't leech. Blue mage being one of them. I've seen level 40+ blu w/o a single blue magic spell which makes them just a shell of a job since blu has no natural traits due to the lore of the class. Plus needing skill to get your spells. But more importently it is a video game, meant to be played. And I hope SE does fix it. They fixed the leeching in ffx14, so why not here.

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Originally Posted by Rosina

At one point leeching was rude, and it still is. How is it rude? Think of the story of the Hen and the duck (an aesope fable might i add) The hen does all this work around her little farm. The duck just sits on his butt not doing a thing, hen keeps asking the duck to help. Duck refuses, then by dinner. The hen put in effort for her meal the duck did nothing but expected a hand out. Aka the duck did nothing to earn his daily bread but expected it reguardless. That is leeching in a nutshell. The term leech came about when people acted like the little blood sucker. They would essential just sit and suck the parties well earned spoils, such as experience points or loot with out doing a thing to help. If your helping in some fashion your still "earning your keep". Don't like my attitude, too bad. I have every right to be upset about leeching due to the fact that i've died because of it i lost so much exp over leeching its crazy. And exp tends to be epicly slow so sometimes I'm losing more exp then gaining.

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Edit: nevermind, my rant isnt good enough for her, I'll just let the above speak for itself.
I especially liked the "one healer going afk = wiping 18 man alliance" line lol.

Rosina, I can understand how it might be difficult for you (full pink, no gear swaps, subjobs out of left field) to handle picking up slack for other players. But we, capable players are able to at any time. And if you can't be civil and nice enough to people who need to go afk, no wonder you don't get invited into good parties.

And you are right: I don't like your attitude. Thank god not a single other person shares your point of view so it doesn't matter at all.

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Originally Posted by Rosina

Having 5 pop on you and aggro can easily kill ya. I seen parties near wipe and disband after too many deaths.

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Holy crap get better parties, your party members can't handle 5 worms solo? They should be able to handle 20 worms....

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Originally Posted by Rosina

And I hope SE does fix it.

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Sorry to break it to you, but this is Working as Intended. Abyssea + Abyssea leeching was SE's fix to the retardation that was the old 6-man parties. And Thank God! lol

I do not hate people. Just the art of leeching, I see/ have seen no good from it. And uh... if your retort is to insult is my gear on a character that no longer exists, then your just grasping straws to try and discredit me. Plus add the fact that last gear set I was was spry vest with my charis +1 feet rest was base charis I was /thf and with the atma I used could more or less solo anything with out need of shadows. But honestly, say one GOOD thing about leeching. If you think its great prove it? Not be immature and insult my playstyle over my personal opinion. You guys really need to stop taking what I say seriously. I have right to make comments on something i dislike as much as you do. I play this for fun, and relaxation. Not to bust my butt for people who log on and do nothing. If the game is THAT boring for you that you can't sit and press a few buttons, then why bother playing this at all?

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Originally Posted by Shadowsong

Holy crap get better parties, your party members can't handle 5 worms solo? They should be able to handle 20 worms....



Sorry to break it to you, but this is Working as Intended. Abyssea + Abyssea leeching was SE's fix to the retardation that was the old 6-man parties. And Thank God! lol

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aka i'm too lazy to play a video game. got it. :)

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Originally Posted by Rosina

I do not hate people. Just the art of leeching, I see/ have seen no good from it. And uh... if your retort is to insult is my gear on a character that no longer exists, then your just grasping straws to try and discredit me. Plus add the fact that last gear set I was was spry vest with my charis +1 feet rest was base charis I was /thf and with the atma I used could more or less solo anything with out need of shadows. But honestly, say one GOOD thing about leeching. If you think its great prove it? Not be immature and insult my playstyle over my personal opinion. You guys really need to stop taking what I say seriously. I have right to make comments on something i dislike as much as you do. I play this for fun, and relaxation. Not to bust my butt for people who log on and do nothing. If the game is THAT boring for you that you can't sit and press a few buttons, then why bother playing this at all?

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^ Ladies and Gentleman, I rest my case. If that is the equipment you wear, you are actually WORSE than the leechers who do nothing, at least they are expected to do nothing.

edit: One good thing that has come from leeching: EXPing is no longer content.

My suggestion to you is to stop EXPing and to start enjoying the actual game. If that does not appeal to you, perhaps it is time to move to an MMO where exping is content.

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Originally Posted by Shadowsong

^ Ladies and Gentleman, I rest my case

edit: One good thing that has come from leeching: EXPing is no longer content.

Also, when 99% of us enjoy something, and 1% doesn't, the burden of proof is on the 1%. Like we would care if you are in a dark corner earning .0001% of our exp while we are out enjoying the actual game.

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aka i am too lazy to think of a good reason.

Anyway i made a seperate thread about this feel free to post proof and opinion on how leeching is good, how it is helping ffxi in there so we can stop derailing this thread because i said 1 comment and ppl got "butt hurt" over it.

ps shadowsong... what are you trying to prove by quoting me? All i'm getting from you is you just do not like getting pointed out for being lazy. And are taking it as a personal insult that i said leeching is bad.

Cuz so far all i did was point out there was no need to insult my gear or a character, ON A VIDEO GAME, who got deleted a year ago.

Just keep digging Rosina, just keep digging lol
Thank god you are back

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Originally Posted by Shadowsong

Just keep digging Rosina, just keep digging lol
Thank god you are back

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your the only one digging for insults well you and acron. I just play ffxi to relax i really don't give a rats **** how you play, only if it effects me.

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Originally Posted by Rosina

I do not hate people. Just the art of leeching, I see/ have seen no good from it. And uh... if your retort is to insult is my gear on a character that no longer exists, then your just grasping straws to try and discredit me. Plus add the fact that last gear set I was was spry vest with my charis +1 feet rest was base charis I was /thf and with the atma I used could more or less solo anything with out need of shadows. But honestly, say one GOOD thing about leeching. If you think its great prove it? Not be immature and insult my playstyle over my personal opinion. You guys really need to stop taking what I say seriously. I have right to make comments on something i dislike as much as you do. I play this for fun, and relaxation. Not to bust my butt for people who log on and do nothing. If the game is THAT boring for you that you can't sit and press a few buttons, then why bother playing this at all?

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Ok, if you say so.