Dynamis coins drop mechanics

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Originally Posted by Fupafighter

Damn your right lol. Duo'ed DC and it went fantastic(except tigers linking like mad) Averaged about 85 per cycle.

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yup its sort of the not so secret secret. My group does around 600 coins a run with 35-50 touches which we also sell.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

They can drop 4 coins on nightmare mobs, one is 100% the other 3 are independant.

If p is the probablility for one coin to drop for any slot then you easily get that

proba of 1 coin is : 3*p^2-p^3+1-3*p
proba of 2 coins is : -6*p^2+3*p^3+3*p
proba of 3 coins is : -3*p^3+3*p^2
proba of 4 coins is : p^3
average : 3*p+1

This matches the data with p~=0.64

Data

Em & tough raptors in Qufim
Treasure hunter 6



When mixing all 3 mobs you get



All value match for p ~ 0.64-0.65
Secondly the drop table of each mob matches for this value.

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http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/5576/5drope.jpg
5-coin drops not included? What was your sample size?

nightmare mobs. well didnt know beastmen could drop 5 there lol. Ive never seen 5 coins on nightmares, but I also saw zero drops on beastmen with procs.

or : read the OP. This sample is on nightmaremobs.

Actually, some nightmare mobs can also drop up to 5. I'm fairly sure Nightmare Leeches in Dynamis - Tav can drop up to 5 Shells, though I don't have a screenshot of it. I did Dynamis Tav nightly for months.

I've never seen it in qufim, and we farmed 2x99 empy. I did tavnazia a few time and I don't remember much beside the camps being too small anyway. I have seen 5-drops on beastmen in qufim though.

Also the model in the OP doesn't allow 5 drops, nor the data. 24% chance at 4 coins, so there should be some decent chance at 5 coins if it was possible.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

or : read the OP. This sample is on nightmaremobs.

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My screenie I quoted is few months old, it was the first time it happened, we were in Dyna-Valk. I didn't bother making new screenies since then, but it's not uncommon for me, but then, I go as real THF. Actually I started off todays Dyna-Tav with 5 coins off leeches (nice coincidence Byrth, haha). I'll take a fresh screenie just for you next time. Should'nt take a month.
Also, what was your sample size?

everything is in the OP.

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Originally Posted by Zirael

My screenie I quoted is few months old, it was the first time it happened, we were in Dyna-Valk. I didn't bother making new screenies since then, but it's not uncommon for me, but then, I go as real THF. Actually I started off todays Dyna-Tav with 5 coins off leeches (nice coincidence Byrth, haha). I'll take a fresh screenie just for you next time. Should'nt take a month.
Also, what was your sample size?

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From today's Dyna-Tav:

http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/6586/5drop1.jpg

I made screenshots of five occurrences of 5x drop, all from nightmare Cluster, as that's what I was mostly killing today. Might've been more, I wasn't paying attention to log all of the time. All monsters defeated with TH6/TH7.
So does your formula apply only to Dyna-Valk/Quf/Bubu and only to nightmare animals?

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Originally Posted by Dart

yup its sort of the not so secret secret. My group does around 600 coins a run with 35-50 touches which we also sell.

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Only if there's no solo bst or dnc or ninja or whatever slowly soloing them screwing up the repops.