Sept update blues

Except it doesn't matter, at this stage in the game the player base needs new shinies, tons of new goals that are worth getting, to have incentive to stay here. Specially when there's things like Diablo III and MW3 coming out in the near future.

I don't see how any of your points change the fact that 80% of this new gear is nearly downgrades rather than upgrades, and are at the most slight upgrades. Other than the cloth body, and the Heavy body for non-PLD jobs in PDT/MDT sets, there's nothing significant enough to get the general population of this game to want to go get them. Looking at the list I can literally count on my fingers the amount of things that are at the most a slight upgrade. Several of them are weapons, which are always downgrades if not Relic/Mythic/Emp/WoE but not everyone has that for every job they have well geared.

It matters for your argument, which you've now changed because I shot down its premise. If you don't see how what I've said explains why we aren't witnessing the extraordinary boost in gear stats that we did at LV85, then you need to reread again and again until you get it because I don't think I can make it simpler without offending you. There are a ton of upgrade pieces this update (Including a tier-breaking H2H ear); I don't see how you get off saying the stuff you do.

This update might of been extremely lackluster but we'll need to see the grandscope of things from 95-99.

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Originally Posted by Molech

This update might of been extremely lackluster but we'll need to see the grandscope of things from 95-99.

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I hope so, because this update was "extremely lackluster" right Yugl?

Like I said, only a handful of small upgrades, the earring being one.

If you only see a handful, then you're probably gearing wrong.

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Originally Posted by Leonlionheart

IDGAF how hard the content is to do, I just want an upgrade similar to

Byakko's Haidate to this

What's wrong with sensible level progression?

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Welcome to Summoner's world. Where you only get good armors and weapons every 4 years.

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Originally Posted by Yugl

If you only see a handful, then you're probably gearing wrong.

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If you see more than a handful, then you're probably gearing wrong.

The biggest upgrade is probably chersos helm, for war anyway, and it's only 1% better in haste and pdt than an augmented genbu's kabuto.

Tons of niche stuff I suppose, but something really worth sinking time into? I think not.

I just double checked the data mined gear. I saw about ten pieces that I would take for my mains (whm, sch) but only 2 or 3 of those are solid upgrades. If I wanted to blow out my inventory I could probably take another 4 or 5, but I'm sure as heck not putting any effort into getting them with another level cap increase on the horizon somewhere.

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Originally Posted by Yugl

(Including a tier-breaking H2H ear);

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That was mathemacally proven to be inferior to other gear. It's not enough to show off shiny stats, there is math behind, and math tells you that moonshade earring surpasses it.

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Originally Posted by Leonlionheart

If you see more than a handful, then you're probably gearing wrong.

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In other words, you pose the "Nu uh" comeback.

There's a universal cure body piece for RDMs, SCHs, and BLM to boot. A new PDT piece for DRG (And maybe even the other classes listed on that piece). Various accessories including that H2H piece and 7ATT/Wyvern DT for DRG. The helm accompanying the PDT body is good for WSs sets without a critical hit focus (i.e. for NMs you're close to floored critical hits against). Cure potency cape for RDM, SCH, and BLU. Ocelo for Benthic typhoon. Lenore for enmity cure sets. Torque for Alchemy and Smithing. Glassbelt for DRG breath moves. Two new skill up earrings. Fast cast ring. New sTP ring for those that were using the one from Tahrongi. Valseur any good for DNC? Aife Mantle for Benthic. Motenten found Ire+1 to beat the elemental gorgets and BB for belt (Nightfyre showing Anguinus in certain belts), so I imagine Justiciar will win in some of these cases, but I haven't calculated that yet. Phrenic for enmity certain cure sets (Depends on beginning set). Nefer Khat for SCH nukes for mix sets. Rauch for potency light enfeebles on SCH (And potentially RDM unless I'm forgetting a piece). Saevus for pure potency on SCH. Romanus for RDM? I don't recall any piece better than that.

I'm not going to even entertain this any further because it's pretty clear by now that you're wrong.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

That was mathemacally proven to be inferior to other gear. It's not enough to show off shiny stats, there is math behind, and math tells you that moonshade earring surpasses it.

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With which augments? Also, this depends on the fact that you're using moonshade for MNK.