No, please not another break WS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ophannus
Those suck because they expect the effects to outshine the damage. The best Full Break I did while in Dynamis (only reason to use a break WS outside of Abyssea) was ~600 on a demon in Xarc, and the effect never sticks. Best Ukko's Fury I did in Dynamis? ~4500 damage AND the slow actually sticks, same type of demons.
Weapon Skills - Do we get new ones?
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09-01-2011, 06:11 AMKorpg
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09-01-2011, 06:17 AMKavik
Thankies for the info camate, while i am dissapointed we do not get any new weaponskills till 99, i'm glad they plan to implement more eventually. There are some really nice ideas on this thread for you guys if you don't have plans already ^^.
Sooooo... it's at least a distant possibility? Because that would be teh awesome to have access to them outside of campaign battles.Quote:
As for campaign weapon skills, this is still in the discussion phase and there have been no concrete plans made as of yet.
This is off topic. Talking about new ws, not messing with the old ones.Quote:
instead of new WSes, I'd bew happy is they made it so all physical WSes could crit. It's stupid that they can't crit in the first place.
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09-01-2011, 06:17 AMDrai
I want Drachenfall for DRG, the Ark Angel Galka ws, I think it'd be nice to have an AoE WS that doesn't suck, since Drakesbane and Camlann's Torment are already awesome single target WS'
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09-01-2011, 06:25 AMReturn1
it's off topic of new WSs, but it's still on topic of WSs and New, so I think it fits. It would do a lot more than new WSes we won't use ever would. hell if they made it so all WSes would crit we might actually see people use stuff like SS, SC, SH, Y/G/K, Guillotine, PK, Any Relic WSes, Non-Wildfire ranged WSes, and many others.
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09-01-2011, 06:42 AMKarbuncleI like this idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ophannus
Mandalic Stab has a 1.66x Attack mod, Which is a fancy way of saying "ignores some defense". So we already have this. But i suppose another couldn't help so long as it was better than Mand Stab -.-Quote:
Dagger= A defense ignoring WS
Doesn't staff already have like 8 of these ^^? Why not something that actually boosts the primary jobs on these (BLM/SMN?) Can't boost em all, But i think my suggestion (A WS thats magical and hits decent, and raises the users Macc/Matk by 10) Might be better.Quote:
Staff= A physical heavy hitting WS like Fullswing/Retribution
I'd say "Hexa Strike", but since its WHM only, a second club skill for those without hexa would be nice.Quote:
Club= A multi hit crit WS.
Same as my suggestion :)Quote:
Scythe= A 2-3 hit Crit WS.
I was thinking "Sanguine Blade, That converts HP to Wyvern", But with all the Buffs to wyvern defense... Imagine your character jumping in the air, pulling back his sear mid-air and throws the spear at the enemy on the ground causing a massive shockwave/explosion type deal. Not sure of a name. But could be interesting/AoE?Quote:
Polearm=A radial AoE that uses Leg Sweep Animation or 'Jump' animation on par with Fell Cleave.
Think the Sanguine Blade for Wyvern might have more utility. the other one would look badass though.
would be nice if it stunned well and did decent damage. You cannot hope to outclass Ukko's fury or Raging Rush... So might as well go for Utility.Quote:
Great Axe= Some kind of new break that stuns or intimidates the mob.
5-hit might be too powerful, or suck because of it. 3-hit with crit might bring balance to it!Quote:
Great Sword= 5 hit damage varies with TP or something, Gsword needs a multihit!
Could work ;OQuote:
Katana=A drain ws on par with Sanguine Blade.
Eh, Not a SAM, dunno how this would be looked at >_>Quote:
Great Katana= A WS that has poor or no skillchain properties but is multi hit like 4-5 hits. Can't be used in a SC but does great damage by itself.(Seriously, SAM doesn't need another strong 1hit ws that makes light)
AoE huh, Could be fun.Quote:
Bow= Arrow Rain: Consumes 2-3 Arrows but does average-high damage in radial AoE,
You like your AoEs >____>Quote:
Gun= Shrapnel Shot! Uses Heavy Shot animation, does wide physical AoE damage or make it cone, like a shotgun!
I Vote Dolphin Punch! like from FF7/8. Complete with Dolphin noises and dolphins.Quote:
h2h= Wave fist, ranged WS deals modest damage and knockback or a ws that adds doom on weaker mobs(Secret Fist from FFT!)
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09-01-2011, 06:50 AMEconomizer
It would also be nice to have new job specific WS, assuming we're not adding more procs. Why should a Blue Mage be as proficient as a White Mage at using a club for damage? Why should a Ninja get the same Dagger WS as a Thief? Why should a Dragoon get the same sword WS as a Paladin?
Everyone can use a Club, almost everyone can use a Dagger, and many jobs can use a Sword. Not everyone should get the badass WS with it, especially if the weapon is one job's signature weapon. Sure you might be upset some job that you don't consider a damage dealer can use weapon skills you can't, but that's because they are supposed to use the weapon and you aren't. -
09-01-2011, 06:54 AMAndrien
Camate, all I want for christmas is Lights Blade. Like the one from Kam'lanaut. and a spinning shield ^_^
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09-01-2011, 06:57 AMMDenham
As far as the new (last?) club WS (and, for that matter, katana): these are the only two 1H weapons that don't have an AoE damage WS. I mean, hell, daggers get two.
So, uh, AoE club and katana WSes at ~375-390 skill. -
09-01-2011, 07:01 AMEconomizerEspecially club... a Ninja can equip a dagger if you are working on magian trials in Abyssea (there should still be an AOE WS though), but a White Mage is sol since the only good AOE damage you can do on WHM is with a Staff.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDenham
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09-01-2011, 07:02 AMKarbuncleI'll give you Cyclolone in exchange for Blade: Jin and Hexa Strike :3Quote:
Originally Posted by MDenham