dump the PS2...

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Originally Posted by Rosina

nope, but do you? how do you know otherwise either? If I'm potentialy wrong so are you :)

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I do. and I can definitely say they don't use the ps2 as much as they used to by far. Japanese have greatly switched to PC gaming overtime.

I'd say maybe a third if that still use the ps2, and that most of those have a PC, they just use the ps2 because that's the version they bought forever ago.

SE already has enough outrage, I know quite a few who play on PS2 just because added security, one in particular got his account hacked after logging onto his PC version. But just think. "We're making it harder to pay for your service, OH! We're also dropping PS2, so if you don't have one you might want to go out and spend $700-$1100 on a PC so you can still play and deal with our new horrible payment options." I think even SE can see they have thoroughly pissed people off already.

Some people still play on PS2. I used to dual box on two of them! until they both broke down... gone through three in total.

SE makes Final Fantasy to make money. SE makes money off of PS2 users. Good luck convincing them to stop making money off people.

It's the 21st century. How do you have internet access and not have a PC in your house?

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Originally Posted by Panthera

Some people still play on PS2. I used to dual box on two of them! until they both broke down... gone through three in total.

SE makes Final Fantasy to make money. SE makes money off of PS2 users. Good luck convincing them to stop making money off people.

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I don't think they need convincing..

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Originally Posted by Panthera

Good luck convincing them to stop making money off people.

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they seem to be doing pretty well doing just that lol.

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Originally Posted by Rosina

<insert the usual distractions>
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Attack the post not the poster.

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Um... technically, they are attacking the post....it just happens to be that sometimes your posts sometimes state your opinion as if it's a fact, and doesn't post any reference to back it up. Then you try to defend it as a point of fact, again without posting any data to back it up. You were specifically asked to reference a source... and you come back with opinions.

All the while there is an undertone of something along the lines of contempt or quiet rage behind a large number of your posts, which eventually bubbles up into a blast of insulting statements where you accuse everyone else of doing what you yourself are doing. Please, go back and re-read the recent message from the moderating team in this thread...it applies to all of us (including you):

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Originally Posted by Qeepel

Hello everyone,

I'd like to remind everyone to please refrain from making inappropriate tags. The same goes for inflammatory comments towards others and off topic discussions. Such language and actions are considered a violation of the forum guidelines, and can result in the termination of your account.

Thank you.

SQUARE ENIX MODERATOR

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Please, understand this is not meant as an attack, but more along the lines of an advisory kind of thing.

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Originally Posted by Kojo

SE already has enough outrage, I know quite a few who play on PS2 just because added security, one in particular got his account hacked after logging onto his PC version. But just think. "We're making it harder to pay for your service, OH! We're also dropping PS2, so if you don't have one you might want to go out and spend $700-$1100 on a PC so you can still play and deal with our new horrible payment options." I think even SE can see they have thoroughly pissed people off already.

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My netbook can play FFXI....by no means does somebody have to buy a computer that costs anything above 300 to play this game. You don't even need a dedicated graphics card to have it run.
Simply, before the Japan expert Rosina turned the thread into a whirlwind of Wikipedia facts is that
if they moved engines it would be a smart move depending how they increased subs.

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Originally Posted by Rosina

ffxi was out for a year on the ps2 in japan then moved to pc. It was launched in ametica on pc then ps2 after.

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Release date(s)
PlayStation 2
JP May 16, 2002
PC
JP November 7, 2002

A year? Someone needs to learn to count just a tiiiny bit better.

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Originally Posted by Rosina

umm not that simple.
2 you can kiss 1/2 the player base goodbye
3 even mmo on the pcs are limited to the tech it was made for.

you guys really need to put up or shut up. Learn the industry,

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Originally Posted by Rosina

what you think the japanese player base is playing on? they are mostly on consules. And ffxi was MADE for the ps2. then ported to the pc and the 360.

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Originally Posted by Rosina

cute. They pefer consules tbh. Though some do you PC. It is just a prefernce since most of their jobs require long hours infront of a PC. Plus their econamy isn't the greatest and most can't afford a good pc to play games with.
But even still, to dump the ps2 one would need to remake ffxi from stratch. And resell it as ffxi v2.

You know you can reply to me with out the insults. I'm only just gonna get frustrated. Really adults on these forum things are very.... odd. They act like grade school children.

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Originally Posted by Rosina

japanese players. Honestky you guys are dense JP have always been more keen to consules then we are. You seem to forget japan is much different then the states and EU.

If jp are not big on consules why was ffxi made for the ps2? then released on the pc. Plus even tanaka even stated he doesn't own a pc capable of running ffxiv at home. japanese pc players are a minority compair to consule players. they actually from what I looked up work longer hours then we do.

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Originally Posted by Rosina

maybe or maybe not. I was more or less over exxagerating. Not my fault you take what ppl say seriously I never literaly ment half but it is common that jp are console gamers while we are pc gamers.

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Originally Posted by Rosina

acytually i do talk to the jp players. and I did look into stuff from wiki. ffxi was out for a year on the ps2 in japan then moved to pc. It was launched in ametica on pc then ps2 after. If jp were not more keen to consules ffxi soulda been made and launched on the pc first. But it wasn't. I do not speculate I use common sence. I also play ffxiv and though jp are the bigger numbers atm, it isn't as big since the ps3 wasn't launched. (game is getting better)

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Originally Posted by Rosina

Also I call you guys children for petty insult you do because I have a different opinion on things. Such as the tags. Really you guys do not need to consistently bash me for my opinions. Yet feel the need to shove yours down my throat. Learn to type with out and Insult and writing up tags to insult me then I can stop calling you children. I'm also more or less just calling out child-like behavoir that is usatisfactory for your ages. I mean really alling me dense over petty bs, or bashing me because you took something I said to literally. Jeezum crow. You guys seriously need ta stop. I can be nice if given the chance to. But you guys enjoy your pathtic taunts just to make yourself feel better. Attack the post not the poster.

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For the love of our sanity Rosina please stop acting like a child while acting like you know what you are talking about (you clearly do not) while belittling others to then back track and say we shouldn't take you seriously and then act like the victim only to be intellectually silly some more. Just please stop, and perhaps embrace reality a little more outside of your own ideas and misnomers. We would really all appreciate it.

That being said no the PS2 will not go anywhere, and no even if it did that would not help the game in anyway. Please realize this game is not going to get the attention of WoW (with its recent graphical revamp) and such regardless of if the PS2 is a supported platform or not.