Job Manifesto discussion RE: Summoner

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Originally Posted by Alkar

In general most Wards need buffing. I still don't understand why SMN has weaker version of spells and need to use more MPs to apply them (Earthen Ward vs Accession> Stoneskin for example).
Considering the master can't really do anything outside of casting a few cures, powering up the pets doesn't really seem that broken to me.

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They've buffed the durations to reasonable levels, which make me feel like potency might be next. I'm hoping they do because buffs tend to be a big part of why we're accepted in parties, aside from niche things like a NM tha needs to be killed with utmost safety.

Ideas to Elemental Siphon

-While an avatar is out, allow Elemental Siphon to work 1/2 MP back with avatars.
-While an avatar is out, allow Elemental Siphon to act like Astra Flow: Odin/Alexander/Atomos when summoning a spirit to accumulate MP or collect MP over time.

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Originally Posted by Soundwave

Ideas to Elemental Siphon

-While an avatar is out, allow Elemental Siphon to work 1/2 MP back with avatars.
-While an avatar is out, allow Elemental Siphon to act like Astra Flow: Odin/Alexander/Atomos when summoning a spirit to accumulate MP or collect MP over time.

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...What? Elemental Siphon is fine the way it is. Adding it to avatars is silly, and I don't even begin to understand what your second idea was. Astral flow?

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Originally Posted by Tarage

...What? Elemental Siphon is fine the way it is. Adding it to avatars is silly, and I don't even begin to understand what your second idea was. Astral flow?

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Oh I don't know I think he just needs to go into more details of what he means. Soundwave maybe a little more detail into what exactly you mean?

I read it as two different ideas. Either 50% MP return from having an avatar summoned, or it works like Odin/Alex and using elemental siphon automatically calls the correct day/weather spirit, grabs MP, then releases it, even if you got an avatar summoned.

Can well these threads that don't have official replies get some love from the Dev Team with information.


Thaaaanks.

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Originally Posted by Malamasala

I read it as two different ideas. Either 50% MP return from having an avatar summoned, or it works like Odin/Alex and using elemental siphon automatically calls the correct day/weather spirit, grabs MP, then releases it, even if you got an avatar summoned.

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Correct, Its just an idea for better solo play. The idea came from SE of course how they want us to "Management" our MP.

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-While an avatar is out, allow Elemental Siphon to work 1/2 MP back with avatars.

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Summon an avatar pick a fight with a mob, do a few BP:R...use Elemental Siphon, and drain MP from the avatar to transfer to the summoner.

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-While an avatar is out, allow Elemental Siphon to act like Astra Flow: Odin/Alexander/Atomos when summoning a spirit to accumulate MP or collect MP over time.

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Summon an avatar pick a fight with a mob, do a few BP:R...use Elemental Siphon, a spirit will automatically come out and give you your MP over time or maybe instantly and will release on its own.

If this will be considered, I know this is not ground breaking...however, it won't hinder how Elemental Siphon works in the way we use it now.

P.S. sorry for the lack of details

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Originally Posted by Urteil

Can well these threads that don't have official replies get some love from the Dev Team with information.


Thaaaanks.

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They seem to (slowly) be going through each job with some feedback to our questions. They replied to SCH in the big thread, because there was no small thread for it. I'd assume that they'll get to this thread in time. (Unless the info we got on cait sith and atomos was the only info they could give us)

The first one doesn't make sense because we already have Avatar Favor, which works in conjunction with 'weakening' our avatar. The second is just lazy. I have a macro that summons the spirit, changes my gear to siphon gear, siphons, changes my gear back, and releases, all in ONE macro. And no, I am not using windower or third party tools.

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Originally Posted by Tarage

The first one doesn't make sense because we already have Avatar Favor, which works in conjunction with 'weakening' our avatar. The second is just lazy. I have a macro that summons the spirit, changes my gear to siphon gear, siphons, changes my gear back, and releases, all in ONE macro. And no, I am not using windower or third party tools.

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I think that with tweaks it may be interesting. Imma have to think on this n digest it.