"Extend time" in la theine abyssea...

1) With users like you, how could I? Silly troll...

2) I know how to do basic math, the computer doesn't. When I'm at 21 minutes left, and go to "extend time," the NPC should tell me I will only get 17 minutes from my stone (120-99 [what i had to start with *gasp*] = 21). Not simply that my time is going to be at 120 minutes from using one stone. When it clearly isn't going to be to begin with.....

Is that idea to hard to grasp? The idea that the NPC will tell you accurately how much time you're going to get, regardless? I guess it's asking too much of the player base to get their head out of their asses for once.

The most likely reason why it doesn't tell you, is because the NPC prob cant read or recognize how many TE stones you have gotten.

And really, don't make empty threats! If you say you aren't going to post anymore, stick to your guns!

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Originally Posted by Raxiaz

No, what I would demand is for a server that handles payments and one that handles registration.

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So we seem to have a communication problem...you seem to be closing yourself off to posts contrary to your point of view.

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I can assure you I will never use the feature again. But from the start, it should tell you how many minutes you're actually getting from the stone. Arguing against this is just ignorant.

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It does tell you how much time you are getting from each stone when you first go to use them. You pick the base amount from the list showing 30 minutes per stone, it then tells you your bonus time per stone (in my case +18), then it tells you how much time is actually applied. At that point, you know you have requested X amount of time, say 104 minutes total. Make a note of how close that is to the 120 minute cap and plan accordingly.

At that point, it is your responsibility to note that if you use a stone, you will only get the difference to 120 minutes, (being 16). Here's a few ways you can look at it:

1. Make a mental note you have used 104 minutes and add 10 to that amount each time you get a TE until you hit/exceed 120, at which point you know you can't add time with stones period, if you aren't to 120 yet, you will get the difference to 120.

2. Make a mental note that you have 16 minutes you can add until you hit the cap. For each TE you get, you subtract 10 from that amount until you hit/go below 0, at which point you can't add time with stones in that session, or if you havent' hit/passed 0 yet, you will get the difference to 16.

3. Nnote that you have 16 available minutes to add. Add up each TE until you hit/exceed the remaining time of 16, and at that point you can't add stones. If the sume of the time earned from TE hasn't hit/exceeded the remaining time available yet, you will get the remaing difference from a stone.

4. Compute it out that an additional stone would only be worth 16, if you get 1 TE a stone would be worth 6 minutes, and after two TE's you can't use any more stones that session.

5. Accept the fact that no matter what, you are going to waste minutes if you use another stone, and if you are getting TE's you may not be able to add any stones that session. Go ahead and be prepared that if you get the 15 minute notice, you need to prepare to exit and redo your time if TE's don't come soon. If you hit the 10 minute mark...it's time to decide to exit now and redo your time, or risk hitting the 5 minute mark and not be able to come back in for an hour if you don't get a TE in the next 4-5 minutes. That's a judgment call you have to make. If you make the wrong call and get booted... that was your decision.

Even though the messaging isn't perfect, you are STILL being given sufficient notice when you first set up your time that you are in danger of either getting partial credit for adding a stone, or potentially not being able to extend time at all with stones depending on that sessions performance. Either way you look at it, you are well enough informed that if you wish to preserve your stones when your time is running out, it is best to exit and re-apply time to insure you are getting the full value of each stone.

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Originally Posted by Raxiaz

1) With users like you, how could I? Silly troll...

2) I know how to do basic math, the computer doesn't. When I'm at 21 minutes left, and go to "extend time," the NPC should tell me I will only get 17 minutes from my stone (120-99 [what i had to start with *gasp*] = 21). Not simply that my time is going to be at 120 minutes from using one stone. When it clearly isn't going to be to begin with.....

Is that idea to hard to grasp? The idea that the NPC will tell you accurately how much time you're going to get, regardless? I guess it's asking too much of the player base to get their head out of their asses for once.

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soooo... help me with this. you can remember days/weeks later that you went in with 99 minutes... but you couldn't remember that just one hour after you requested the 99 minutes?

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Originally Posted by Kimble

The most likely reason why it doesn't tell you, is because the NPC prob cant read or recognize how many TE stones you have gotten.

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This.

The OP is raging against something that's a minor inconvenience at most. You've been explained by several people here how it works, it's not a bug no matter how much you call it just that. Lashing out at other people doesn't help your case either. If you had kept your cool after being explained how this whole thing works and suggested that the npc should tell you exactly how much time you will gain from adding another traverser stone, instead of frothing at the mouth - well, you would have made yourself look a whole lot better.

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Originally Posted by Raxiaz

Ok, but when I'm giving the person a stone for extended time, they should accurately tell me how much time I'm getting from it. Instead of "120 min." *** happens, I'm not complaining about that. But you have to be *** retarded to tell me that it's OK for the game NOT to tell me how much time I'm really getting from the stone, much later down the line.

Ok *** these forums... I'm sick and tired of being treated like I'm some kind of *** child. It's like you guys don't comprehend what I'm saying. Maybe y'all are the *** childs, not me. I KNOW I have a 120 minute cap from stones. I KNOW THAT. But the "extend time" option is so *** ambiguous and doesn't even accurately tell me anything useful. That's my problem with the function now. Removal? No need, but better portrayal of what I'm getting from my stones: {Yes, please.}

I may not like the rules whole-heartedly but I'll respect them and abide by them graciously, WHEN the game correctly tells me what the *** is going on when I'm "extending time." I should not have to direct myself to a separate webpage explaining the option in depth. The NPC should simply tell me how much *** time I'm getting from my *** stone.

I don't care if it's working as intended it's still flawed and needs an adjustment.

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A totally inappropriate post. People here have tried to be decent and fair in an attempt to explain how Stones work and this is how you respond.

You are entitled to your opinion to be sure, but not in this manner.

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Originally Posted by hiko

so i should be able to get out from xp pt with 370 min , go sleep 6h while i left my char in aby, wake, add stones and start solo kill stuff with all light caped, .....

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You can already do this by just farming TEs, what's your complaint?

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Originally Posted by Raxiaz

So I did this today, allowed me to use only one stone (+30 mins), applied my increased boost from abyssites, but when i hit ok, it said total time: 120 min, and then i was given only 21 mins because when i entered 99 mins is what i had originally. This in essence wasted a stone for me.

I had 17 mins left before.

I consider this a bug and no matter how quirky it is I'd like it fixed.

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How is this a bug? Maximum time is 120 minutes, no matter how many bonuses you have. You could argue that the message should be changed to say that due to your existing time, the bonus will be lost, but there is no bug in terms of how much time you were given. You should have been smart enough to know already that you weren't going to get the full time of your stone.

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Have you even read the posts in this thread? Several have given a very valid reason to use a partial stone.

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The most obvious reason being that eventually, you will have stones coming out of your ears, and thus you just want 120 minutes every time you enter and don't care if most of a stone is wasted.

People care about "wasting" Traverser Stones? O_o;;

I go in most every day and just dinged to over 400 stones. My group also doesn't focus on TE's, ever. We pretty much go in, do NM's, get TE's along the way, sometimes we don't get 'em and have to restone (depends on if we need to farm pop items or not, usually, or burn for KI chests).

Seriously, it's working as intended, you're whining for the sake of whining and to get on a soapbox over something that really doesn't matter in the first place. It's not even an issue of you sucking less, it's an issue of you just needing to shut up and (/sunglasses) deal with it.

Edit: Even my alt account, which isn't even past the 30 day free trial yet, has extra stones to burn, and I haven't even gotten around to getting the +3 min/stone Abyssites (except the purchasable one) or the -4 hour/stone-respawn from the Tonberries (got the others, though).

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Originally Posted by Fiarlia

I go in most every day and just dinged to over 400 stones. My group also doesn't focus on TE's, ever. We pretty much go in, do NM's, get TE's along the way, sometimes we don't get 'em and have to restone (depends on if we need to farm pop items or not, usually, or burn for KI chests).

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If you could restone without losing your lights, would you do it?

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Seriously, it's working as intended, you're whining for the sake of whining and to get on a soapbox over something that really doesn't matter in the first place. It's not even an issue of you sucking less, it's an issue of you just needing to shut up and (/sunglasses) deal with it.

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The way it was intended to work is useless though, is what i'm arguing (although you seem to be replying to the op.)

As long as SE decides that crap like ps2 gamepad rumbling is worth fixing, i'll keep suggesting improvements that might actually offer some (even if not a whole lot of) utility.