Contests for Implementing Player Suggested Content (Gear, Weapons, Quest, etc.)?

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Originally Posted by kingfury

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In similar fashion to some of the threads created here on these very suggestion boards, the more "logical" heads you have suggesting stuff, the more it equates to possibly seeing better ideas. I've seen great ideas posted here from folks and thankfully some have been passed along to the Devs.

What kind of ideas have you suggested Khajit?

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Well for one I've suggested you STOP doing this nonsense over an over in a blatant attempt to stroke your ego. Why do you think me being content to let the people I'm PAYING to make up ideas FOR me to have fun with is a crime? Sure I could say X needs to be changed but I can also say I'll go quit and play pokemon instead until the next patch. The responsibility is on THEM to make this game continue to be interesting to me and not on me to turn it into a my little pony playground.

And your argument you just posted is yet another logical fallacy since more ideas does not mean the ratio of complete and utter shit ideas vs decent/tolerable/good ones will invert itself. It merely means that the dev teams have to wade through even MORE garbage, figure out if it's even possible to do the half good ones individually, possibly let some ridiculously horrible nonsense through because at least one person in the production line wont play the game enough to realize the idea sucks, tie up resources via playtesting the ideas, and so on and so forth through the entire process.

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Originally Posted by Minsc

I personally would like to hear more of your ideas. Perhaps some ideas regarding jobs other than WAR?

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I don't know if it would do anything for you Minsc. So far, the only feedback you've offered is those nice quotes you've found. I think this is the 1st time you've typed an actual sentence in response to one of my threads.

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I've posted plenty of feedback besides quotes (I could copy/paste them for you if you wish), you've just selected to read small portions of them and respond to even smaller portions of them. ^^ lol

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Originally Posted by Khajit

Well for one I've suggested you STOP doing this nonsense over an over in a blatant attempt to stroke your ego. Why do you think me being content to let the people I'm PAYING to make up ideas FOR me to have fun with is a crime? Sure I could say X needs to be changed but I can also say I'll go quit and play pokemon instead until the next patch. The responsibility is on THEM to make this game continue to be interesting to me and not on me to turn it into a my little pony playground.

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Or, you could actually want to see changes in a game you're a fan of and post suggestions about those changes since you're on a suggestion board. Even though tearing people down seems much more fun for most of the posters here, try the opposite.

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Originally Posted by Khajit

And your argument you just posted is yet another logical fallacy since more ideas does not mean the ratio of complete and utter shit ideas vs decent/tolerable/good ones will invert itself. It merely means that the dev teams have to wade through even MORE garbage, figure out if it's even possible to do the half good ones individually, possibly let some ridiculously horrible nonsense through because at least one person in the production line wont play the game enough to realize the idea sucks, tie up resources via playtesting the ideas, and so on and so forth through the entire process.

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Try to creatively think of something to change about the game. Then post it.

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Originally Posted by Minsc

/stagger

I've posted plenty of feedback besides quotes (I could copy/paste them for you if you wish), you've just selected to read small portions of them and respond to even smaller portions of them. ^^ lol

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To my threads, or others? I've never responded to your quote post.

Kingfury, personally I think you are a very talented artist and I wish there was a PM feature here so we could talk about art stuff together. I think the issue here though is that whenever you make a post it comes off less that you have a coherent idea about the game and more that you want to show off your newest batch of drawings.

That being the case, there is this weird mentality in this forum where people think that SE's devs are hyperanalyzing every post and if there is a suggestion people don't agree with they have to rush to swat it down in the most obnoxious way possible to make sure they don't get conned into picking it as a focal point of the next upate. It's cool if you disagree, but people get downright ornery when they think somebody has a bad idea, and the poster is made to feel like they're an idiot for even thinking that was a good idea.

In the end - do I agree with this idea? No not really though it is an interesting concept. Kingfury, while I may not always agree with you, I do think you should have the right to make suggestions and post your drawings without being attacked for it. It's always more interesting to see a post that might be abit out there but has passion and interest behind it rather than more "Bawww fix abyssea bawww fix my job!" posts.

Again, people don't NEED to have an idea to tell someone that theirs is a bad idea. Unless you want me to come up with a bad idea myself just to tell you both of these ideas are bad.

Heres an idea:

Instead of doing this, have a contest to design a piece of level 1, no stat, event gear. Something that LOOKS nice, that people might want, that in no way has anything to do with having to balance stats, etc.

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Originally Posted by kingfury

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To my threads, or others? I've never responded to your quote post.

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Reread your whole "GIVE WARs ALL WEAPON SKILLS!!!" rant. You read a small portion of my feedback, responded to a smaller portion. Despite what some on here are saying, we want to read more of your ideas. Please keep posting! ^^b lol

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Originally Posted by Shibayama

Kingfury, personally I think you are a very talented artist and I wish there was a PM feature here so we could talk about art stuff together. I think the issue here though is that whenever you make a post it comes off less that you have a coherent idea about the game and more that you want to show off your newest batch of drawings.

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Thanks for compliment Shibayama. / For the record, I change my sig every week. It has nothing to do with my post however, as I've at times created multiple threads within a week without changing it. I have a lot of FFXI artwork that I've created over the years is all. Seems fitting to put it where it belongs.

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Originally Posted by Shibayama

That being the case, there is this weird mentality in this forum where people think that SE's devs are hyperanalyzing every post and if there is a suggestion people don't agree with they have to rush to swat it down in the most obnoxious way possible to make sure they don't get conned into picking it as a focal point of the next upate.

In the end - do I agree with this idea? No not really though it is an interesting concept. Kingfury, while I may not always agree with you, I do think you should have the right to make suggestions and post your drawings without being attacked for it. It's always more interesting to see a post that might be abit out there but has passion and interest behind it rather than more "Bawww fix abyssea bawww fix my job!" posts.

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Absolutely cool that you don't agree with the suggestion man. / I respect your feedback. Thanks.

No problem - at the very least I always enjoy seeing what you come up with. It's usually alittle off the wall and I think thats cool. Also... are you from Valefore?