Level 99 Relic, Mythic, Empyrean, and WoE Weapons

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Cljader1

I have 2 relics and 2 emps,

---

First of all, I said mythic is harder to get, you don't own a mythic, its also clear you don't have a 110 craft, additionally I wouldn't be surprised if none of your emps or relics are 99. You want to know how to get a 110 craft? You buy a bot to fish for you, then you buy a bot to watch the AH for you and buy mats, then you buy a bot to craft for you. 110 crafting, congratulations and good job.

In addition to that what about people like me who leveled a craft other than goldsmithing or smithing, they don't get to craft weapons better than relics? Also try looking up Legion gear, see if you still think crafters didn't get a chance to make the best gear.

Not to mention, Even if have all the gil and currency for your Relic, It'll take about 2 weeks to actually get it, because thats about how long the goblin takes to fix up all the stages :D.

You could probably burn one of these Delve weapons in... 450 Minutes, assuming 3500 Points a run, and giving ample downtime between runs. So, You could get a delve weapon in a single days worth of work too. Just throwing that out there. Delve weapons are actually take less time to get than a 75 relic even if you have all the currency :D

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Cljader1

I have 2 relics and 2 emps, they are not that hard to get. Moreover if you compare this to goldsmithing its not even close, getting goldsmithing to 110 is a far harder than obtaining a Emp or Relic, there are ALOT more relic and emp holders than there are 110 lvl smithers and goldsmithers. Plus crafting is about the gear not entirely about the money, no crafter wants the pinnacle of there craft to be mediocre equipment with sorry stats. Thats an embarrassment..

Plus relic weapons was on top for over 6 years you have 6 years to have the best weapon in the game, now its time for more powerful weapons to emerge and you should embrace that.

---

sorry just a quick question, both of your relics and both of your emps are 99?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by bryangelos

sorry just a quick question, both of your relics and both of your emps are 99?

---

Of coarse they are both 99, and that is Apoc and Rag for my drk...getting it from 95 to 99 is just a gil sink, my emps are calabolg and redemption at 90 (no need to further these because apoc and rag are far better). I was one of the first too get apoc to 99 on my server and as soon as a couple of months ago I completed rag to 99 and you see I'm not bitter about the changes. Its time I move on from these weapons, I do admit liberator was the next goal on my list, but now my attention has shifted and its for the better.

Its not just a Gil Sink, personally me and every 99 in my Linkshell (About 30+ of them) Were gotten from doing ADL Every week for a months on months.

Maybe you bought your 99, but thats not the path everyone takes.

Edit: not that i discount the rest of your argument, Just pointing out its not as black and white.

:/ does it matter what level they are? the point being that they're less likely to ever get them to where they wanted becuase they're for a lack of a better word... now worthless. Goals, progression, and feeling accomplishment of something grand is what alot of this is about. I feel like alot of the reason for me logging in day after day was just crapped on by the developers and scoofed at with the latest "oh but we may let you use the weaponskill" brain fart. Did I enjoy the grind to get there, no not really, did i like the idea of finnishing? you bet your @#$ I did. I love playing with my friends, and doing things that we couldn't alone in this game, but my goals were just swept asside with alot of this update, Delve and skrimish is fun as hell, but without the journey associated with what I was after (relic's and empy's 99 and being top tier weapons) ... it's not the same.... for me anyway.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Cljader1

I have 2 relics and 2 emps, they are not that hard to get. Moreover if you compare this to goldsmithing its not even close, getting goldsmithing to 110 is a far harder than obtaining a Emp or Relic, there are ALOT more relic and emp holders than there are 110 lvl smithers and goldsmithers. Plus crafting is about the gear not entirely about the money, no crafter wants the pinnacle of there craft to be mediocre equipment with sorry stats. Thats an embarrassment..

Plus relic weapons was on top for over 6 years you have 6 years to have the best weapon in the game, now its time for more powerful weapons to emerge and you should embrace that.

---

if you can say that they are easy it can only mean that you easily bought your way to 99, and if you did, it means that your crafts already gave a good return for your investment.
moreover if you wanna craft what people desire then the mats will not be cheap. never been before and will not change now.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Zohno

if you can say that they are easy it can only mean that you easily bought your way to 99, and if you did, it means that your crafts already gave a good return for your investment.
moreover if you wanna craft what people desire then the mats will not be cheap. never been before and will not change now.

---

The last part I agree with, materials will be crazy expensive and breaks will be devastating, but thats the challenge that lies ahead. But the mere ability to craft such a weapon is what I am excited about, and +1 may actually be one of a kind. I remember they days where signing high end equipment actually meant something, and maybe just maybe those days have finally come back.

Really the easiest way to do this is for the Dev team to create a new tier of super weapons and have everyone trade up.

Advantages:

- RUN and GEO get added
-Unlock Relic and Empyrean weapon skills by trading weapon with WS unlocked to the "Unlocking a Myth" guy.
-Dev team only has one set of Ultimate weapons to balance top end content to, instead of the 3.5 we have right now.
-Doesn't destroy the Dynamis currency, Alexandrite, WoE Coin, or VW because you can only trade up a lvl 99 relic, Mythic, or Empyrean for the new one.

Disadvantages:

-Would have to wait for the new weapons to be introduced.
-Sentimental value of the weapons

New / "Replacement" weapons that can take a few days to obtain Vs R/E/M that take months to 99 is a complete insult, period.

SE should raise R/E/M dmg with no further requirements as the time/money investment was enough to 99.

These new weapons don't fix much for many jobs as some actually depend on the WS/AM from R/E/M. Sword and Katana come to mind and wouldn't ya know, they are the Top 2 owned Empys.

There is no reason why the old and the new can't co-exist at the Top Tier. It gives ppl more options on what path to decide and doesn't stop ppl from doing Delve.