To: Mr Akihiko Matsui

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Originally Posted by Trisscar

Here it's the archaic magic skilling system at fault. I've leveled White Mage the old fashioned way, back when people still partied in Whitegate areas. My healing skill only just recently broke 300, and my other magic skills are even lower, despite the spam. My Ninjutsu isn't that much higher than 200 despite constant spam.

Your arguments are invalid. Again.

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You're seriously trying to tell me that a Lv99 Ninja should not be expected to have capped Ninjutsu on a Lv40 capped BCNM? And this is your defense? Ha!

More like, "don't get mad when you lose an orb because you suggested doing a BCNM40 that wasn't Royal Jelly."

Also, yes, I would expect a NIN I was bringing to UO to have capped Ninjutsu for level 40. However, I would ask first, because I know that leveling Ninjutsu is a huge pain in the ass and has always been.

If you were justified in taking Random Shout NIN's capped skill as an article of faith in any way at all, it's that it's way more reasonable to expect him to have capped Ninjutsu now than it was back when people were doing UO pretty regularly. Care to hazard a guess as to why?

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Originally Posted by Plasticleg

skipped over that...

skill level would still be irrelevant on the ninjutsu. just sounds like someone who burned it up for procs.
also, don't go on capped fights with /sh's, they usually fail.

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Do you know what the strategy is for this particular BCNM? It doesn't sound like you do.

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Originally Posted by scaevola

More like, "don't get mad when you lose an orb because you suggested doing a BCNM40 that wasn't Royal Jelly."

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What's wrong with UO? PCC; 2x Ni; Phalanx; Refresh, etc.

Nobody needs PCC. Royal Jelly has the same scrolls and is basically idiot-proof.

EDIT: Alright, I'll take that back. But who the hell are these morons still paying 400k for peacock charm?

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Originally Posted by scaevola

Nobody needs PCC. Royal Jelly has the same scrolls and is basically idiot-proof.

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Nobody needs 400-500k? Nobody needs two scrolls instead of just one Ni? Woo, the logic here escapes me.

RJ can be done easier with two DRGs than UO can be done with 3 of anything. Quicker turn-around for multiple runs. Fail once in either and the difference becomes moot.

I'm not the one complaining that a terrible NIN almost cost me multiple orbs, man.

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Originally Posted by Eyeballed

You're seriously trying to tell me that a Lv99 Ninja should not be expected to have capped Ninjutsu on a Lv40 capped BCNM? And this is your defense? Ha!

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In my defense you didn't exactly make yourself clear when you we're talking about ninjutsu skill levels not being at cap for another player. I still stand by my observation that the skilling system needs a complete overhaul.

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Originally Posted by scaevola

RJ can be done easier with two DRGs than UO can be done with 3 of anything. Quicker turn-around for multiple runs. Fail once in either and the difference becomes moot.

I'm not the one complaining that a terrible NIN almost cost me multiple orbs, man.

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Apparently you've never done UO with 3 BLM. Stand in one spot and spam -ga. Can't get any easier than that. And it could have been just the same on your DRG DRG RDM Royal Jelly with a Red Mage that can't stick bind/gravity. Also, he would have only cost me a single orb, man.

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Originally Posted by Eyeballed

Nobody needs 400-500k? Nobody needs two scrolls instead of just one Ni? Woo, the logic here escapes me.

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sounds liek you need a more reliant way to make gil without wasting resources, or relying on others.