Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

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Originally Posted by Fiarlia

Is the Pope completely worthless (as a person and religious figure, not asking about personal beliefs in the slightest, and don't care to know)? Crusades and all.

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You don't even have to go back to the Crusades on that one. Clergy sexual abuse, anyone?

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Originally Posted by Starcade

Then you're clearly enabling him, and, hence, no longer worthy of my time.

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Your reasoning is stupid. I am sure that Chris Brown is a talented musician and can sing quite well. I'm also sure that he's a terrible person because he beat his girlfriend and therefore I won't buy his music. Recognising his talent does not enable him, buying his music does.

The same thing goes for FF11 players. Recognising they are bad because of Abyssea is not the same thing as enabling them by inviting them to groups. If I think they're bad I'm not going to do things with them.

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Originally Posted by HFX7686

Your reasoning is stupid. I am sure that Chris Brown is a talented musician and can sing quite well. I'm also sure that he's a terrible person because he beat his girlfriend and therefore I won't buy his music. Recognising his talent does not enable him, buying his music does.

The same thing goes for FF11 players. Recognising they are bad because of Abyssea is not the same thing as enabling them by inviting them to groups. If I think they're bad I'm not going to do things with them.

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It's not simply because of Abyssea, though -- it's because some of these players have no business in FFXI in the first place.

As far as Chris Brown goes, even recognizing he has talent is more than he deserves at this point -- and that's not unlike a lot of the aforementioned people in FFXI.

You should practice what you preach and stop playing FFXI. You clearly don't deserve to, by your own standards.

I can't believe you guys argued over Chris Brown and the definition of talent for so long. Arguing over semantics? Really?

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

You should practice what you preach and stop playing FFXI. You clearly don't deserve to, by your own standards.

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I know, right, Starcade obviously bots harder than anyone else. He's probably the guy that wrote some of the bots; that's why he's trying act all internet-tough-guy against it.

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Originally Posted by Fiarlia

I know, right, Starcade obviously bots harder than anyone else. He's probably the guy that wrote some of the bots; that's why he's trying act all internet-tough-guy against it.

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Starcade = Wizbutt? :O

Isn't it obvious? lol

He's so outrageously anti-botting that he obviously makes them, and his attitude and self-righteousness fits with the attitude.

Excellent Point. Well spoken... I meant towards HFX7686

I would suggest an immediate demand for investigation of my account by the GM's and STF if you truly believe that.

But I've said it for over two years now: Why WOULDN'T one believe that any given player would attempt to compromise fair play?

That's why I get so pissed at the jackalopes and botters and slime: No player can state themselves legitimate and not have people such as these challenge it -- so I dare you to actually challenge it and attempt to have me removed from FFXI.