New weapons with higher base damage then relics

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

Stringing plummel is not that nice. The only realistic gear pup should be wearing during SP is attack because the mods are garbage. With shijin you will have access to to 100% dex mod, so in theory at least it is much easier to attune.
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http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/295972
Fortunately! Pretty much all of the best WS gear PUP gets for Stringing Pummel is full of Attack!
Outside of Matanca Harness, it's pretty reasonable to obtain too.

With an appropriate set, SP will perform 1.5-2x that of Shijin Spiral (but Shijin is much easier to maximize as you said)

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Originally Posted by Taint2

Skirmish GKT doesn't touch Masa99 or Amano99.

The H2H weapons are beastly however.

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SAM DPS spreadsheet disagrees with you. But I'm willing to see the math behind this statement.

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Originally Posted by Toioiz

Got a pair of ninza last night on my 9th skirmish run, augmented it with a +1 stone to DMG 59 Delay 51. Higher DMG and lower delay than my 99 spharai. Working on calculations right now to see which I should use for which events/etc.

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ninzas with DMG 52 should be enough to beat spharai, ninzas with DMG65 to beat wildskieper reive h2h.

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Originally Posted by Toioiz

SAM DPS spreadsheet disagrees with you. But I'm willing to see the math behind this statement.

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Any other stats on the GKT or just DMG+25?


You are probably assuming Shoha is SAMs best WS....lol.



To better explain: Fudo,Kaiten,Namas are all superior to Shoha unless attack is starved or you are rocking Koga. If attack is low enough that Shoha is the best WS then the other attributes of Masa/Amano will also come into play. 151 damage 450 delay GKT is coming in a solid 5th best SAM weapon.

I'm not, I as calculating with Gekko, Shoha, Fudo(Masa), and Kaitien(Amano). DMG +25 STR +1 DEX +6.

It should also be said, that other weapons are doing much better WS dmg overall with shoha (Exp. TP bonus weapons), but the overall DPS is what matters, I'm assuming SoA mobs, VT non-capped attack.

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Originally Posted by Asymptotic

http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/295972
Fortunately! Pretty much all of the best WS gear PUP gets for Stringing Pummel is full of Attack!
Outside of Matanca Harness, it's pretty reasonable to obtain too.

With an appropriate set, SP will perform 1.5-2x that of Shijin Spiral (but Shijin is much easier to maximize as you said)

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Good stuff to know.

In buffed situations the difference is more like 20%. But yeah, Stringing Pummel with 99 Kenkonken is better than Shijin Spiral.

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Originally Posted by Toioiz

non-capped attack.

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Thats when you use Shoha...but name an event where a R/E user would only use Shoha? The only one I can think of Odin2 where I use Shoha 90% of the time. There are a few Legion mobs I use Shoha on as well but I also use Mura for them. (Naraka,Rex etc)


Bukhis (101lvl mob)

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GK        GK
Tachi: Shoha        Tachi: Kaiten
0%        24%
0        0
210        210
0        0
       
Set 1        Set 2
540        596
360.291        409.409
       
3.25        3.32
3153        3553
       
4910        5532
413        410
       
714.080        809.625

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Qilin 110

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GK        GK
Tachi: Shoha        Tachi: Kaiten
0%        24%
0        0
210        210
0        0
       
Set 1        Set 2
426        482
284.084        330.656
       
3.25        3.32
2493        2810
       
3879        4408
413        410
       
564.057        645.075

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Don't get me wrong its a good GKT, but its not competeing with the 99 REM class for SAM. I'm sure there is a situation that exist where it pulls ahead but for the other 99% of the game its falling behind.

I would be interested to know the gearsets/options you used to get those numbers, they are *way* different than the results I'm getting from my gearsets on any mobs.