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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds
Where are your proofs? and lol at your conspiracy theory that im gonna round up all the ps2 players(judging from the info in this thread it won t be hard to find all 6 of them...) and organize a boycott.
Sooo SE actually wants to know the numbers of PS2 users eh?
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09-07-2011, 02:32 PMAsh
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09-07-2011, 02:39 PMArconNo we do not. No one can know, but we can give educated guesses. I feel that SE's poll should have been "would you quit if the PS2 was canceled?". It's also an idea for their next poll, after they've determined how many PS2 users there actually are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
What exactly do you want here? I don't see what your angle is. What are you trying to get out of this argument? We know we're not going to convince you, just as you (should) know, you're not going to convince us. I've honestly lost track of what this argument is about.Quote:
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09-07-2011, 02:48 PMAshSee thats the thing i don t really consider it arguing, its more of lets assume stuff that we have no way of backing up over and over.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcon
The only reason i started posting in the first place is i didn t get why there was so much animosity toward people that play on the ps2. The name calling, the poor,commoner,retards comment where really uncalled for especially since after all None of us is gonna decide what is gonna happen next.
Someone in this thread refered to "its all gonna be depending on how many japanese play on what system" Now read this thread from start to finish and tell me there is constructive critism and anything positive in it. -
09-07-2011, 06:41 PMEric
Just had to chime in to add some relevant information.
Prediction for the next update from SE: "PS2 support is being dropped. There will be a short grace period before the PS2 game client will cease to be updated. Thank you for your cooperation."Quote:
The user survey has ended.
Thank you for your cooperation.
Exactly the reason I left this thread. Everything that needs to be said has been said. Don't waste your time on these people. They don't even know what they're talking about anymore. Some people are only responding because it would hurt their "pride" if they didn't have the last word. Maybe instead of trying to prove themselves on an online forum, they should start working a few extra hours to afford that PC that they'll need when SE drops PS2 support.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcon
EDIT: <3 you Ash. See ya around. Feel free to continue stalking me. -
09-07-2011, 06:59 PMOctavianePerhaps it would be better for people to actually get a job in the first place instead of spending every waking hour playing games and complaining about them. I am not saying people don't work, but there are a considerable number that don't. I am constantly amazed when I read posts (not here yet) from 12,13,14,15 and 16 year olds that say "I am a hardcore gamer, very mature." Ya right.Quote:
Maybe instead of trying to prove themselves on an online forum, they should start working a few extra hours to afford that PC that they'll need when SE drops PS2 support.
I have and use a PS2 and I have a laptop. I choose to keep gaming and work/real life separate and I sure don't play FFXI from work on my lunch breaks like I know so many do. Buy another system? No I won't. -
09-07-2011, 07:34 PMEconomizerIf SE does decide to finally drop PS2 support, it won't be a short grace period, it will be a long drawn out process.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric
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09-07-2011, 07:39 PMVortexThey are going to have to rebuild this game if they do, and based off the massive amount of whining when servers were down for the earthquake they won't like that, and even still, i also use both systems for the very reason that i do things on pc that can't have this game running. i certainly am not going to buy a second PC just to play this game when i can already do it if they DO drop it they would have to offer a PC to everyone who uses a ps2Quote:
Originally Posted by Economizer
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09-07-2011, 07:52 PMEconomizerNo, no, and no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vortex
They will not have to rebuild the game. Changes would be gradual even in the update where they finally drop PS2 support. I imagine this would probably coincide with a new expansion, since that's about how far off I think SE would actually push dropping the PS2 even if they announced it tomorrow.
The servers wouldn't be down for more then a day or two to pull this off. Not a week, just the standard time that a very big update has. It isn't like much has to change to get massive benefits, but said changes are either not possible, or cost enough that dropping the entire PS2 userbase, even assuming that not a single one of them bothered to continue playing, would be cheaper then making more expensive to maintain spaghetti code for the PS2 version.
SE doesn't have to do crap to accommodate PS2 users. They don't owe you anything. They owe their stockholders the continued existence of the game however, given that it is very profitable, and dropping the PS2 won't kill the game, sorry to burst any bubbles. The best I can see is some sort of branded computer plan that you can buy for an additional $10 a month for two years, or some voucher plan that gives a discount, but SE isn't going to give PS2 users very much, aside from ample notice. -
09-08-2011, 01:18 AMAshAgain with the asumption than not wanting to play on a pc means you are poor...Your like the same condescending broken record and id be quite curious to know what you do for a living, if your are a home owner or rent an appartment, if you have kids ect,ect...(because you don t seem to grasp what living expenses means or what is the value of money to a working middle class person)Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric
I find it quite amusing that is so easy for me to get to you kid, Lots of lulz have been had talking to you and if they do drop ps2 support i ll still be playing on my laptop and see if i was wrong all along or you were... -
09-08-2011, 03:44 AMRavenmore
Consoles are a cancer to ALL MMOs and should be removed as such. FF14 will be doomed this this same fate with the PS3. It might seem a novel way to draw players but lets face it that market topped out at under 500k. That is a fact since not every one at the peak of FF11 played on a Ps2. Look at WoW, EVE, EQ/EQ2, all still going strong and still getting fresh content all with out the cinder blocks tied around their like FF11 and some time in the next 2 years FF14.
I used to play on Ps2 and it was one of the last shipments of the fat PS2s and it started dieing 2 weeks ago only staying on for 20 mins. I haven't used it as my main system for some time and used it only to play ps2 games. So the time is coming when the Ps2 will simply die of its own accord.
Why continue supporting it if the amount of people playing on it will keep doing down and nothing SE can do to stop it. With PC players SE could use marketing, new full expansions updated graphics list goes on. While nothing short of buying out Sony and firing up the PS2 production lines could stop the loss from decay to the system. Its been stated over and over by the die hard PS2 fans that when their systems goes the way of old yellower they won't change over to a different system to keep playing and paying SE. So if they are unwilling to continue to supporting SE for something that will happen and SE can't do anything about it, why should SE continue to waste money on them.
To the person that state their Wal-mart still had 2 PS2 HDDs left, the reason is simple and you stated it. Being out in the middle of no where means less likely some one would buy them having only one purpose outside of Japan you bought it for FF11 that was it.