Job Manifesto discussion RE: Summoner

If Stun from ramuh goes off the moment you use BP:Ward then it'll be nice. Like no waiting for ramuh to ready it.

If not, GTFO BAD IDEA.

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Originally Posted by Korpg

You need 100% TP to WS, your avatar doesn't need any TP to BP.

Meditate gives you 60/160 TP (depending on job/gear).
Mana Cede gives your avatar 100/200 TP (depending on gear).

Meditate is 12 TP per tick over time.
Mana Cede is instantaneous.

There is no similarity between the two unless you want to say that they both give TP. That is a poor excuse to compare the two. That is like comparing Warcry with Berserk, just because you can have attack on both, even though they are completely different in every other way except giving you attack.

I can't try to look at anything positive about any of your posts because they are dripping, literally dripping, with negativity. Nobody has shot your cat, so stop being all emo about it. You give me nothing to look at that is positive at your posts at all.

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How about I compare Warcry to Crimson Howl?

Oh wait, they are so vastly different.

Warcry is a job ability
Crimson Howl is a pet command

Warcry is a melee ability
Crimson Howl is a mage ability (it uses MP)

Warcry is centered on the character.
Crimson Howl is centered on pet.

Warcry gives enmity.
Crimson Howl does not.

Ah darn it! I can't even compare Warcry and Crimson Howl because they are so different.

But wait a moment... isn't the point of comparing things to point out differences? Surely comparing items is not about reaching the conclusion "They are identical"?

PS. You can't say WAR tanks better than PLD because the jobs aren't the same. That is like comparing apples to oranges.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Hello!

Based on everyone’s feedback, we will be making the below adjustments during the upcoming version update.

Carbuncle: Soothing Ruby* Lv94
　　Remove multiple status ailments from party members within area of effect.**

Ramuh: Shock Squall* Lv92
　　Temporarily prevents enemies within the area of effect from acting.

We would like to make adjustments to avatars so that they can shine brighter than they do currently, so keep the feedback coming!

(*Please note that names and descriptions are under development and are subject to change.)
(**Currently testing and adjusting this in order to enhance the conveniences it offers over that found when using Spring Water.)
*Updated with in-development terminology at 7:22pm PDT

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Cool a reason to use Carbuncle again, and the other is situational but could be nice.

I hope the dev team is aiming to add new attacks too. I miss the old FFs where summons were high damage attacks. I understand that we generate almost no enmity, and our damage out put has increased significantly, however we're still lacking a lot when you look at an Unkon WAR critting for over 1k. I think if no change happens to either the max DMG of BPs or the DoT from physical hits, then at the very least Hvergelmir's aftermath should include avatars (at least their melee hits, though I see no reason to not include BPs with a 45sec recast and not a 100% chance to proc.) That said, there should be some bonus for BLM too.

Wow I had no idea I was the only one who liked Ramu's Choatic Strike for stun lol. I've never had much problem stunning things like mob AMs and -agas, although I am talking from a solo standpoint, where you only need to stay out of range, and only stun the things that will do 50%~ damage to your Avatar. This new aility could still be useful even with the activation delay if it has a long duration, or even better a long duration w/ a status affliction to the mobs that makes them become randomly stunned for a time after.

Can you guys look into being able to at least merit BP Recast Timers? Or at least for the higher amount of Summoning Magic skill you have the less the timer is?

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Originally Posted by SQUARE ENIX

Pet-related Additions and Adjustments

Beastmaster
New familiars will be introduced.

Dragoon
The amount of damage wyverns take will be reduced.

Puppetmaster
Automatons will gain the job trait Subtle Blow.Pet-related Additions and Adjustments

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Any chance you devs are missing a job here? /em crosses fingers

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Originally Posted by Razushu

Any chance you devs are missing a job here? /em crosses fingers

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Summoner
The Perpetuation Cost of all Avatars will be increased by 1
Everything you do will continue to be done better by other jobs
Earthern Ward update? lol, No.

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Nah, they didn't forget

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Originally Posted by Karbuncle

Nah, they didn't forget

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LOL. All joking aside though I hope this isn't all we're getting this update, it's very.... underwhelming.

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Originally Posted by Karbuncle

Nah, they didn't forget

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You stole my post :(

I'm really hoping this isn't all there is for the next update...