Farm 200M and buy the plates ; I've said this the moment they released empyreans trial upgrades in october or september. The goal is not for you to farm them, they are not farmable. They want every casual player to farm them and sell them. We are starting to upgrade our 4rth and 5th empy and it will takes us a few days only. We almost never set foot in voidfail. This is balance you farm for me I get the epeens.
[dev1007] Voidwatch: Obtaining Spoils
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04-04-2012, 06:57 AMMarkovChain
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04-05-2012, 03:34 AMTamoaI actually don't believe the crystal petrifact will drop in the top "HQ" slot (i.e. instead of a ra/ex item, heavy metal, riftdross/cinder etc), since I've seen them in other slots aswell. Fairly certain if you hadn't gotten a petrifact in the top slot of your reward chest, it would have been your usual log or ore instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji
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04-05-2012, 03:51 AMTsukino_KajiI have 2 dozen of them and over half have been from the HQ slot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tamoa
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04-05-2012, 05:01 AMTamoaHow do you know they've been from HQ slot?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji
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04-05-2012, 05:07 AMKarbuncle^^^^Quote:
Originally Posted by Tamoa
Top slot does not mean HQ Slot... There is a chance to obtain no HQ Item. I've opened a chest with 5 logs before :\ -
04-05-2012, 05:11 AMTamoaYeah that's my point exactly. Lost count on how many chests I've opened with no HQ items but anything from one to 5 of your usual logs and ores. And that's with capped lights and cells traded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Karbuncle
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04-05-2012, 10:24 AMTsukino_Kaji
That means you got a log instead of the HQ item. Now we're getting CPs instead....
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04-05-2012, 07:37 PMsaevel
Adding a Crystal Petrifact to the possible loot rewards may not reduce the chances to obtain a HQ drop. When a program randomizes for loot it' use's a drop table to determine what you get.
Ex:
Random number 1 ~ 100 (just for ease of use)
96~100: Super Item (5% drop rate)
51~95: Minor Item (45% drop rate)
1~50: Log!! (50% drop rate)
Now if they wanted to add another item at 2% drop rates the could add it such as
96~100: Super Item (5% drop rate)
51~95: Minor Item (45% drop rate)
49~50: New Item (2% drop rate)
1~48: Log!! (48% drop rate)
This can be adapted to cover any and all possible random events in a program. So just because somethings dropping in the "HQ slot" doesn't mean it's overwriting a HQ Body / Plate, more likely it was put into the positions covering the "random junk". -
04-05-2012, 09:18 PMhikoFTFY !Quote:
Originally Posted by saevel
more seriously
they can also add a new slot with x% chance of new item, 100-X% chance of nothing -
04-05-2012, 09:26 PMTamoa
The way it looks to me, crystal petrifact has been added to the "common drops" (i.e. logs and ores) part of the rewards, seeing as I have already more than once opened a chest with more than one crystal petrifact. One had 3 of them and nothing else whatsoever.
It means there was no HQ slot in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji