Any new HNM coming?

your right, i dont want to fight for claims, i want to fight mobs

so you beat av at 75, meaning you did it in a zerg fashion or some sort of terrain glitch, cause at 75 thats the only way you COULD do it, you keep saying over and over that you want a challenge, yet you have failed to provide proof that you actually accept challenge, beating av using a glitch or zerg is not challenging, more than just me have pointed you towards challenges that you refuse to accept

i got out of endgame because of the system, and will most likely quit if they bring it back, so heres one oldschool player that will quit if world pop hnm's are brought back

and fyi, having gear that others dont doesnt make you cool irl, regardless of what your mom says, so stop trying to be all elitist on us, elitism is what brought drama to endgame in the first place, you are not better than me, im not better than you, your $15 is worth the same that mine is

and its not a "privilege" to play, it is a right since we pay, it would be a privilege if the game were free

and i think you missed the part about bad players having good gear, the system you cherish so, did allow many many bad players to have very good gear, but you probably know all about that dont you

and you sure did respond to me well considering you dont read my posts anymore lol

oh and i do believe i have said before, theres only one r in my name, kthxbai

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Originally Posted by Mrbeansman

Yeah I mean what a dumb idea making it so everyone can do content. Good gear should come from work not claiming which contrary to popular belief is 90% luck 10% skill.

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not for mr natenn lol, its opposite for him, with his SUPER PS2

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Originally Posted by Sureal

i got out of endgame because of the system, and will most likely quit if they bring it back, so heres one oldschool player that will quit if world pop hnm's are brought back

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Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

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Originally Posted by Sureal

and fyi, having gear that others dont doesnt make you cool irl, regardless of what your mom says

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Basement dwellers accusing other basement dwellers of being basement dwellers is always hilarious.

You are an MMO nerd, you are not cool. If you tell normal people about your hobby they will think that you are a looser.

Accept it.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

HNM camping got stupid toward the end when people started making packet bots which actually send info to the server that they claimed the HNM before the actual claim window was even open. Basically you didn't even stand a chance at claiming. The whole HNM pop system is pretty stupid because all it did was lead to mass cheating for claims.

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I already proposed a way to make bots useless on world pop HNMs:

When the NM pops it would be open to attack from anyone for about 3 seconds, after 3 seconds claim would be passed to a random person on it's hate list. This way you have to pay attention to the spawn and be quick to attack it to get on it's hate list. The excitement of camping and competition are maintained and bots are rendered 100% useless.

I said i beat PW at 75, not AV. I got ppl lined up ready to come back to the game if the old system is revived. I know 5, another guy i talked to said he knows around 15 ppl who will be back. So currently SE stands to gain back 15-20 paying customers. You quiting not gonna make a difference in this case. The only challenges in this game were AV/PW/Claiming/Select few HNM at release. The first Creb/Hydra/Khim were my most memorable moments. LS after LS wiping trying to get that first kill, its like the super bowl, first to kill = morale rocket booster. I remember 7 LS fighting and wiping over a 7-8 hr period till all gave up and went to bed with the first Hydra. First Khim was like Fulmination fest it was awsome. Even Cerb was epic. If you wanna quit i say good, less QQers.

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Originally Posted by Natenn

I said i beat PW at 75, not AV. I got ppl lined up ready to come back to the game if the old system is revived. I know 5, another guy i talked to said he knows around 15 ppl who will be back. So currently SE stands to gain back 15-20 paying customers. You quiting not gonna make a difference in this case. The only challenges in this game were AV/PW/Claiming/Select few HNM at release. The first Creb/Hydra/Khim were my most memorable moments. LS after LS wiping trying to get that first kill, its like the super bowl, first to kill = morale rocket booster. I remember 7 LS fighting and wiping over a 7-8 hr period till all gave up and went to bed with the first Hydra. First Khim was like Fulmination fest it was awsome. Even Cerb was epic. If you wanna quit i say good, less QQers.

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Ok, so more people are going to come back than leave? But there will be LESS QQ'ers? All the people who quit earlier because the game didn't go their way are not QQ'ers? We'd be standing to gain more than we lose, provided you're even correct about more people coming back than leaving.

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Originally Posted by Cream_Soda

Ok, so more people are going to come back than leave? But there will be LESS QQ'ers? All the people who quit earlier because the game didn't go their way are not QQ'ers? We'd be standing to gain more than we lose, provided you're even correct about more people coming back than leaving.

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Raises a valid point.

The likelihood of anyone quitting if World spawns were introduced again is slim to none. People might be pissed, but they are generally the ones who are pro abyssea. That's what they would continue to do. The content they so avidly support. Players who quit because HNM was the entire game to them had no option like that when Abyssea was released. Their whole shabang was toppled in about a week or two when everyone realized the new 76-80 gear destroyed hnm, and was well on it's way to making salvage obsolete.

Now agree or disagree with Nateen, and other pro HNM people in this thread all you like. Hell I don't agree with 100% of what they're saying. However him saying there are a significant # of people who would return if HNM became a valid option again is the truth. I know 20-30 off the top of my head, and those were just ones I worked, and played with in linkshells that I am sure of. Considering my initial statement of people will QQ, but they would still have abyssea can you honestly say more people would leave than would be returning?

This is why we can't have nice things.

I don't think i would out-right Quit if World-Spawn NMs were introduced as a means for rare armor, as well as other events to get good armor.

If they were the only way to get the best gear, tacked a 21-24hr timer, and Ruled by Bots. Yes I think the game would probably end for me. But Thats okay. I have other things to look forward too and i enjoyed my time in FFXI :)

But i don't think we have to worry about that anymore. Judging from the look of the Schedule though. It appears we will likely get a lot of good HNM Content, as well as Several Event-Related content like Salvage/Einherjar/Nyzul/etc. I'm looking forward to a great Balance.