Server-wide /shouts

Actually we have a similar but different system for that. The only promblem is that mostly Japanese use it.

Its called the search comment :) If u need something u can always write it in the search comment and ppl can look for you. Ppl are just too lazy to search.

That's not comparable at all. People are asking for another, wider chat channel, not a passive search system.

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Originally Posted by MarkoTurn

Actually we have a similar but different system for that. The only problem is that mostly Japanese use it.

Its called the search comment :) If u need something u can always write it in the search comment and ppl can look for you. Ppl are just too lazy to search.

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Some people are too lazy to set comments so they want to shout to the server for setting something up. Then again some people are just too lazy to read and disregard any /seacom you may have set. Maybe they don't understand what /seacom is and how to /search with it? I don't know.

What I do know is...

I want to see shouts while I am in the city, not while I'm doing some random event. That's why I go to the city in between events and adjust my /seacom as needed.

Howdy!

As mentioned previously, the development team has been hard at work creating a new mode of chat that will allow players to be heard across all the areas within your current nation! I bring with me today a sample of what they're currently testing and planning to implement in the upcoming version update! :) I give you…the “Yell” feature!


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*For the initial settings, the text color is the same as shout

The yell feature will start with support in Jeuno so that we can monitor the effects it has on server lag. After examining the situation for a bit (and assuming no problems arise), we'll expand the yell feature to cover area-wide communications within San d'Oria, Bastok and Windurst.

Now you'll be able to yell for parties while keeping your chocobo fed, expanding your Gobbiebag, or just listing up your bone chips on the Auction House!

Interesting concept. World chat log tab to stop it interfering with normal chats, that you could be looked at via a menu. Additional chat command worldchat to add to the menu chat log could see that working and not interfering with the current location chat screen.

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Interesting concept. World chat log tab to stop it interfering with normal chats, that you could be looked at via a menu. Additional chat command worldchat to add to the menu chat log could see that working and not interfering with the current location chat screen.

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that looks like the UI to change the color at the bottom i think it works just like /shout but it will be /yell

I got that and the bit about it being regional based to start with, I am expanding it a bit further to remove the filter from the current chat screen and make it like a news feed that covers the world server that people can check out as and when they need to.

Where's the dislike button?

So now I have to leave Jeuno to get away from people shouting dumb crap in port. Awesome.

You guys are aware it possible to turn off shouts right? So why would it be any different with Yell, if you don't like it just disable it lol.

Please add a separate filter for Yell

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Originally Posted by Camate

The yell feature will start with support in Jeuno so that we can monitor the effects it has on server lag. After examining the situation for a bit (and assuming no problems arise), we'll expand the yell feature to cover area-wide communications within San d'Oria, Bastok and Windurst.

Now you'll be able to yell for parties while keeping your chocobo fed, expanding your Gobbiebag, or just listing up your bone chips on the Auction House!

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Will this /yell channel penetrate Mog Houses, or will it still just be outside in the cities?

If it does penetrate(gigitty) the Mog House someone left the windows open. <.<

Hey Camate are there any plans to make this cover whitegate as well? (Al Zahbi, Aht Urhgan Whitegate, and The Colosseum)

I know many people don't go there anymore... but as far as I feel (and im sure many others) that is just as major of a city as the 3 nations and jeuno.

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Where's the dislike button?

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For some reason, I find it humorous that the guy with a sig stating to remove PS2 support because it's holding the game back hates things that advance the game.

Anyways, great feature that's been needed for a long time. When you expand it to reach the other nations, will it only be inside that nation alone, or will the nations all have some form of unified chat? Because I'd really like to sit in San d'Oria while I listen for yells. Because I like access to my outpost warps.

And I know at least one person disagrees with this from the replies, but I'd like to see it reach inside my mog house. That way, when I'm trying to dig stuff out, I can sit in my house and listen.

This feature is not holding the game back, it is openeing a new gateway for unwarented spam. It's going to push people away. It is not needed. These are the kind of updates that lead to AF weapons being storable instead of seals.

Make sure you add a filter button too for this.

Can I breathe underwater indefinitely now considering I have the lung capacity to yell across an entire multistory city? This feature sucks and I'm glad the game is being changed for wow-kiddies so we can hear people shout racist crap all over town or brag about their unimpressive achievments and put down anyone asking for help. Oh, and let's not forget the "I'm soooo high right now" garbage that I go to ru'lude to avoid in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Airget

You guys are aware it possible to turn off shouts right? So why would it be any different with Yell, if you don't like it just disable it lol.

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Agreed. +1

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Can I breathe underwater indefinitely now considering I have the lung capacity to yell across an entire multistory city? This feature sucks and I'm glad the game is being changed for wow-kiddies so we can hear people shout racist crap all over town or brag about their unimpressive achievments and put down anyone asking for help. Oh, and let's not forget the "I'm soooo high right now" garbage that I go to ru'lude to avoid in the first place.

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You say the game is being changed for wow-kiddies, yet you definitely complain like one.

I see nothing in this feature that hurts you.
You don't like stupid shouts?
What do you do to avoid them?
Ignore them? Change zones? Turn off shouts?
Guess what, it's the same easy solution to avoid stupid yells, and likely yells won't be allowed as often as shouts.

I'm glad SE attempts to implement features that help organizing groups with any means they can, considering how terrible it is to organize a group for a specific task without shouting for members. Yelling only improves that.

Seriously, grow up. It's sad that some text on your chat log is enough for you to want to idle in a different section of town as-is.
At least give some suggestions toward the meaning of this feature, rather than QQing about the minor details that bother you personally.

On the topic of the feature itself, I'm slightly disappointed that it'll only reach the region of the Nation you're in. The goal with this feature should be to allow people to set their Home Point in their Home Nation, and see the Jeuno shouts for organizing groups. Seeing Port Jeuno shouts in other parts of Jeuno, isn't extremely beneficial. Also, making the color the same as Shout for default, will cause a LOT of confusion upon implementation.

This is a good idea which is long overdue. However, bazaars were also a good idea, and those are largely abused to the point where I hate browsing them. 90% of the bazaars I've seen lately have nothing but items listed for the maximum amount. A similar thing will happen with yells. They'll be abused by players who care more about expressing themselves than they care about how much time you waste trying to find what you're looking for.

It will still be useful to many people, I imagine, but it probably won't be long before I filter the channel out so I stop getting spam about what some random newb ate for breakfast.

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Please add a separate filter for Yell

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Why wouldn't there be one? SE isn't TOTALLY stupid, you know?

A city-wide chat channel is long overdue. This way people don't all have to cram in the same area or repeat shouts in every area in order for people to see them.

Be sure to add yell support between Whitegate and Al Zhabi as well.

I'm fine with yells only being within the city you're in, but I think it should simply be active within whatever region you're in, city or no.

Don't like what someone is /shouting or /yelling about? Someone hell bent on spamming obscenities or other random crap that tick you off? Don't want to leave the zone you're in just to have peace of mind?

/blacklist the player(s), and have some chill time. The world is now back under control for ya.

All the tools are there to filter out stuff, so I still to this day can never understand the hissy fits folks have about such a thing. I'm interested to see how it goes, but I still say they could have altered/tweaked the "Search Comment" functionality to achieve world wide communication without the hassles of worrying about the server strain so much. It already has built in channels that would be easily adjustable if we could use a /Seacomshout (subject) command. Glad to see the Devs making the effort, but if this "/yell" business doesn't work out as planned, target the Seacom system next. ^^

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Why wouldn't there be one? SE isn't TOTALLY stupid, you know?

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The post made it sound like a rush-job that might come out in the same "channel" as /shout, hence the same color text that he mentions. If it's in the same "channel" then it might not be uniquely blockable. There are times when I want to hear shouts, but there are also times when I go hide in Upper Jeuno so I don't have to see shouts. I'd rather not have to go change my filter setting every time I move zones.

Mocchi needs to check his e-mail and messages.

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/blacklist the player(s), and have some chill time. The world is now back under control for ya.

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Problem is, this is not a viable soloution. You have now just given licence to the person to say what ever they want behind your back, only now it's right in front of your face and you can't see it.

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Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji

Problem is, this is not a viable soloution. You have now just given licence to the person to say what ever they want behind your back, only now it's right in front of your face and you can't see it.

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But why would you care about what someone that you've already determined as being "annoying" is saying behind your back? If they've successfully made it onto your /blacklist, you should just leave'em (along with your cares about them) to the wind.

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But why would you care about what someone that you've already determined as being "annoying" is saying behind your back? If they've successfully made it onto your /blacklist, you should just leave'em (along with your cares about them) to the wind.

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Any number of reasons up to and including slander of your name without you even knowing it.

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Any number of reasons up to and including slander of your name without you even knowing it.

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lol Slander? Like name calling? Are you telling them that you've in fact /blacklisted them 1st before doing it? Again, why would you care? If they're a kid brain player, let'em go nuts with the dribble talk. They'll wear themselves out eventually.

SE is stupid, eh? And yet you pay...

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Any number of reasons up to and including slander of your name without you even knowing it.

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They could still do this in /party or /linkshell if they wanted to - it is not giving them any "license" they didn't already have.

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I'd like to see it reach inside my mog house. That way, when I'm trying to dig stuff out, I can sit in my house and listen.

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Agreed.

This long over due because everyone hanging out in PJ just makes the zone very laggy to be in. Now people can make groups no matter what part of jeuno they are in.

If you don't like it so much you can simply turn on the filter.

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Originally Posted by Coldbrand

This feature sucks and I'm glad the game is being changed for wow-kiddies so we can hear people shout racist crap all over town or brag about their unimpressive achievments and put down anyone asking for help. Oh, and let's not forget the "I'm soooo high right now" garbage that I go to ru'lude to avoid in the first place.

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I thought the FFXI community was supposed to be more mature than the WoW community? I mean, that's what all the FFXI players always claim, at least...

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Originally Posted by Camate

Howdy!

As mentioned previously, the development team has been hard at work creating a new mode of chat that will allow players to be heard across all the areas within your current nation! I bring with me today a sample of what they're currently testing and planning to implement in the upcoming version update! :) I give you…the “Yell” feature!

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*For the initial settings the text color is the same as shout
*We will update these with EN images very soon! Apologies for the Japanese!

The yell feature will start with support in Jeuno so that we can monitor the effects it has on server lag. After examining the situation for a bit (and assuming no problems arise), we'll expand the yell feature to cover area-wide communications within San d'Oria, Bastok and Windurst.

Now you'll be able to yell for parties while keeping your chocobo fed, expanding your Gobbiebag, or just listing up your bone chips on the Auction House!

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Some times the japanese makes more sense to me than the english but "The yellw feature will start... we'll expand the yell feature to cover area-wide communication within san d'oria, bastok and windurst" i dont know what server these guys play on but on mine no one yells in the nations... if you want people out of jeuno you'd have to expand the jeuno yells to the nations, eve if you cant yell back

This will have a filter, there is nothing to complain about with this at all.

The only thing I don't like about this is it appears way too limited currently, unless it's extended to cover jeuno & all 3 starter nations combined it's still only a small fix for the congestion/communication problems. Anyway I like it a lot and I'm happy to see it's going to be added, long long overdue.

*also awesome sig king^^

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Originally Posted by Camate

Howdy!

As mentioned previously, the development team has been hard at work creating a new mode of chat that will allow players to be heard across all the areas within your current nation! I bring with me today a sample of what they're currently testing and planning to implement in the upcoming version update! :) I give you…the “Yell” feature!

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*For the initial settings the text color is the same as shout
*We will update these with EN images very soon! Apologies for the Japanese!

The yell feature will start with support in Jeuno so that we can monitor the effects it has on server lag. After examining the situation for a bit (and assuming no problems arise), we'll expand the yell feature to cover area-wide communications within San d'Oria, Bastok and Windurst.

Now you'll be able to yell for parties while keeping your chocobo fed, expanding your Gobbiebag, or just listing up your bone chips on the Auction House!

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Thank you for taking the time to improve player means of communication. I hope this feature having a dedicated filter will help those who don't wish to use it.
Also, by reading replies in this thread I hope you've realised there is a demand for enhancing means of player communication (especially not having to idle in cities in order to find PUG group) and you'll consider expanding on the idea in the future.
Considering all the voices against, I'd stress out that /yell and /shout are totally optional and can be turned off any time one does not wish to interact with other people. Same goes for /tell, /say, /linkshell etc. If you don't want to talk to anyone in game, the features to allow you that are already in there.

Can we also get the yell to include the Beseiged messages, Im tired of waiting hours for the trolls to get here when I know they have started to attack.

All we need is "Scream" So we can hear shouts in all areas.

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So now I have to leave Jeuno to get away from people shouting dumb crap in port. Awesome.

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Ever hear of filters ?