Ranger wan-... NEEDS.

I ses a lot of concerns about ammunition and I'd suggest an ammunition NPC shop. Yes, I understand crafters woes but it really doesn't apply anymore since there are HARDLY ANY ammunition for sale anymore since everyone is all about Abyssea and not farming/crafting much. The Auction House is pretty empty here..

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Originally Posted by Karbuncle

There have been tests that (last time i looked) showed 100% Critical Hit Rate achievable. but i think it was 95% Adjusted after a while.

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Well what I'm saying is that it maybe (unsurprisingly) more difficult to raise crit rate for ranged attacks than for melee attacks. See a couple weeks ago I was in abyssea doing the tests and was simply checking to see which stat increases crit rate. I came to the conclusion that it was AGI but I never tested to see how much it improved it by per point. What I really need is help finding what stat it's checked against and then help finding how much a point of AGI increase the rate. The lolwiki stub says 50 DEX over your target's AGI but I have a feeling it's (unsurprisingly) much higher for AGI vs whatever it is for ranged attacks( making it yet again impossible for RNG to reach its potential).

The reason no one makes ammo anymore is cause no one wants to level synergy to make the new ammo or farm the items. If you think you have enmity issues try doing 3k-5k triple procs regular range attack with Annihilator(weak to piercing that is) even the aftermath of - enmity does not help. God forbid if a triple proc occurs with Annihilator too especially a 8 hit barrage that does 10k. PreAbyssea i have done alot of 5-6k barrages to DI and was more or less instant death. Enmity really needs addressed either give us an ability to reduce or negate the enmity we earn.

I would be interested to see the results of this claim that AGI increases critical hit rate for ranger and not DEX.

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Originally Posted by noodles355

I would be interested to see the results of this claim that AGI increases critical hit rate for ranger and not DEX.

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It's not terribly hard to test anymore. Just run into abyssea with a stack of cheap ass arrows/bullets/bolts and go see for yourself.

Friend already did it, Put on Razed Ruins critical hit rate on Rng was ~40%, put on GH+RR and critical hit rate was over 70%. if RAttack had a dDEX function his crit rate should have been over 50% with just RR.

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Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz

Friend already did it, Put on Razed Ruins critical hit rate on Rng was ~40%, put on GH+RR and critical hit rate was over 70%. if RAttack had a dDEX function his crit rate should have been over 50% with just RR.

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When I was testing I used Kirin and Strangling wind along with cruor enhancement for AGI and... VIT(cant remember what AGI pairs with in that menu)? Before that I used Omnipotent and War Lion for DEX and the DEX cruor enhancement. With all the DEX crit rate was below 10% and with the AGI around 20%

Well it may be because the crit rate enhancement through DEX caps out at 20% which is speculated to be +50DEX over the monsters AGI. I would not doubt AGI goes by the same limitations for the ranged crit rate. Any gear, merits, or atma that increase the critical hit rate % works for close and ranged attacks interchangeably.

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Originally Posted by Swords

Well it may be because the crit rate enhancement through DEX caps out at 20% which is speculated to be +50DEX over the monsters AGI. I would not doubt AGI goes by the same limitations for the ranged crit rate.

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This is what I would like to go test though. I have a hunch that there is another bullshit limitation that nobody has noticed yet which makes ranged crit rate more difficult to increase. Since the stat that increases ranged crit rate is different and the damage improvement for a crit is different so I wouldn't be surprised if the rate it increases is different as well.

Random note: When i first encountered rangers back on 04 i noticed they'd always run from stuff so i suggest we run a campaign where we get dnc/rdm/blm/whatever to gravity stuff or ask se for a really nice ja/ws with -70% movement till VE calms down or we can recast/ws again lol!

Come on, we can equip both trotters and wlegs. Kirin is always a bithc, fair enough, but nowadays trotters are a joke to get.

Compare 12% movement WITH melee being kited by a target TO a mob walking slow as hell with melee within melee/tp range to understand what i am saying. I may be speaking for every other ranger when i say i rather have a second defensive ability that isn't purely sub dependent. Even while soloing things a rng is soloing--for whatever reason a rng is soloing--boots made for running means you aren't attacking which defeats the point of soloing and as aforementioned ruins party damage/mp which brings us back to ranger needs.

You also have to consider party needs as a rng (non solo job for most of us) and the fact that once you WS and you jump to the top of the hate list, a mob is already toe-to-toe with your avatar even without movement enhance. Ask any ranger if what i say is true and they will agree.

I personally don't see why they don't allow you to move while shooting. So many other games let you do this, and it doesn't cause an imbalance issue.

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Originally Posted by Deadvinta

I personally don't see why they don't allow you to move while shooting. So many other games let you do this, and it doesn't cause an imbalance issue.

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I'm not certain but I think technically ranged attacks are a job ability and every job ability halts your movement when you activate it.

At times it feels like a cure IV spell if i stay still.

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Originally Posted by noodles355

Ranger has no native self-healing (Such as Drg's Wyvern, Dnc's Sambers, Pld's Cures)

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SE's gonna argue Bloody Bolts =/ Even though X-Bow is virtually obsolete.

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Ranger has no native enmity-shedding ability (Such as Drg's High and Super Jump, Blm's Enmity Douse)
On top of that it's selection of -Physical Damage Taken gear is pitifully low. We can't equip the Darksteel+1 armor set, the Gavial/Hydra set, the Arhat's Set and none of the Heavy Armor options (Valhalla, Grim, Heavy Gauntlets, etc). The only gear we have access to is the same "All Jobs" equipment that everyone else has access to too.

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I've been working on a PDT build for RNG, and it's kind of a start that they can equip both Terra's Staff AND a PDT Magian Bow/Gun. With PDT Rings, Twilight Torque, and Denali Wristbands (There's a few more 1%'ers, IIRC), PDT can get up there. It's still not anywhere near as easy to get as other jobs, though.

As far as enmity shedding in regards to Super Jump, I really really hope SE at LEAST lowers the level of Super Jump from 50 to 49 by the time the Lv.99 cap comes around.

I forgot we get a solid build but the bow we'd have to use A LOT ; ;

Of course we can equip PDT staff and gun/bow but thn you're left with the troble of: Keeping gimpshit damage gear on fulltime or losing TP everytime you need to switch to PDT.

justice bump.

Hey guys, you excited for the upcoming changes to RNG? :3

What changes?



Exactly...

It's good to see all the bugs they fixed. It's a really long list.

It's nice to see this wasn't displayed:
An issue where Dead Aim's Critical Hit Damage bonus was not applied to ranged weaponskills.

Are they gonna fix that anytime soon?

Maybe we should submit this as a bug. All 15 rangers.

It's already been submitted 2 or 3 things and "passed on to the dev team" by the bug forum GM.

I still don't understand with issues of "Is it a bug or not?" that the dev team can't take 30 seconds to reply to the bug report stating whether it's a bug or not. Seriously, it takes no time after reading the report to reply "It's not meant to on WS" or "It's a bug". Guess this new communication front with SE is just that, a front, and communication with the dev team is still as terrible as ever? Would love to be proven wrong.

Indeed. Transparency is extremely important but they seem afraid of player reaction.