Learn to communicate and more importantly, when to stop after a point has been made.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yvone
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08-11-2021, 12:07 PMTharly
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08-11-2021, 12:08 PMYvone
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This is NOW post #82 Stop secretly deleting posts. 10/9 -
08-12-2021, 03:55 AMYvone
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08-12-2021, 09:23 AMYvone
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08-12-2021, 11:05 AMTharly
I think my life just ended. I've been blocked.
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08-12-2021, 06:04 PMAlhanelemFrom? /10charQuote:
Originally Posted by Tharly
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08-12-2021, 08:30 PMCatmatoYvone blocked them on the forum. Read the thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alhanelem
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08-12-2021, 11:30 PMYvone
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08-13-2021, 06:35 AMYvoneRampant Botting and the ineffectiveness of the STF
Trying to hide the evidence will not work. Every single day. I'm going to find a bot, and report it to the STF. I'm going to screencap it and post it here, as proof that the STF while stating they take action, do in fact not take any action the majority of the time.
There are more bots than humans and it is unacceptable.
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08-13-2021, 08:38 AMVoidstorm
I'm quite surprised they're only locking and deleting threads. Banning is the obvious pick for hiding dirty laundry here.
Guess you're right and they are ineffective at their jobs.
'there are more bots than humans' please give proof of this. you're on Asura so I'm expecting to see you post 2k+ bots. -
08-13-2021, 08:48 AMYvone
Had a bunch of bot pics but they delete it if you show the names. Not allowed to show reality.
The same way they won't show asura bots yelling on live stream. -
08-13-2021, 11:44 AMAlhanelem
screenshots of reports don't even constitute "evidence" of anything.
We all know you're reporting the same bunch of bots over and over, you don't need to keep reminding us that you're doing it. It's something we can very safely assume is happening.
And SE doesn't do any live streaming. The live vanadiel cam doesn't show any chat, much less shouts or yells.
Just stop. You really need to find a better hobby. -
08-13-2021, 11:51 AMYvone
https://www.twitch.tv/finalfantasyxi
Community rep, on asura, hiding the chat box so no one sees the shoutbots.
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08-13-2021, 12:54 PMAlhanelemAll streamers hide the chat box (and should be). This isn't just community reps. This is so nobody's names or chat are recorded when they don't know they're being recorded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yvone
It has absolutely zero to do with them being a community rep and zero to do with you or your conspiracy theories.
I do it as well, though I do it by putting my webcam in front of it, which is the best place to put it anyway so it doesn't cover up actual gameplay stuff. This is respect for the privacy of all users, not SE hiding "evidence." -
08-13-2021, 12:56 PMYvone
That's the fake answer. The PR answer.
The real reason is hiding things. There's nothing to be secretive about in the chatbox, except chat you don't want seen. Like the 200 yellbots.
No effort to hide the players names with /names. No effort to hide the party members. Suspicious effort to hide the chat box specifically. They aren't fooling anyone. -
08-13-2021, 12:58 PMAlhanelemWrong. It's not fake, most streamers do it. Many people would behave differnetly if they knew they were appearing on someone's stream and they could see the chat. Particualrly, if they didn't want to appear on camera, they would leave if the streamer wasn't doing the respectful thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yvone
But you're so blinded by conspiracy, that it's pointless to discuss. Even if I wanted to accept your argument, which I don't, there is little point in hiding bot activity when everybody knows it's happening anyway. The rep has no motiviation to do it beyond the reasons any streamer would do it. There is no conspiracy to hide the fact that bots exist, anyone can play the game and discover bots, anyone can find discussion threads on the internet with google. Your argument is utterly ridiculous. I would make an analogy about it but it would be inappropriate for this setting.
I don't work for SE, I don't even work in PR for any company, get yourself together.
This is not something that just a community rep would do. This is a standard thing that is common among streamers, whether you want to accept it or not. There is nothing "suspicious" about masking the chat box, what-so-ever.
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08-13-2021, 01:03 PMYvone
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08-13-2021, 01:49 PMVoidstorm
Sure, it's not because there are people aside from me who will post a trollface in LS chat while someone streams for the lolz.
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08-13-2021, 02:34 PMZehira
Believe it or not, this thread will not do anything. Surely, the community reps have had to hide the chatlogs for the sake of everyone's privacy (little to no experience with actually playing the game).
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08-13-2021, 04:07 PMVoidstorm
I've started looking at this forum because ffxiah doesn't have enough interesting stuff for me lately and I need something else to read while I listen to the daily
newspropaganda.
For cheating, if they added just survival guide warps & /mounts early on, getting around would have been drastically less of a pain.
equipsets still need work. game makes available doing actions via menu & macro [ctrl/alt+W/B/M (weaponskill/pet ability/spell) is just a shortcut to the menu], yet only the macro version allows equip changes in line with the skills. If design was followed through to completion, we'd have the ability to make a set of auto-swaps from menu & a 2nd set via macro.
ugh, i'm sub'd to SE's FFXI YT channel and I accidentally clicked one before the site launched; Zzz. Not even going to bother watching anything else pushed for that site unless i see clips from a vid on AH that is interesting. -
08-13-2021, 08:16 PMYvone
NOW THERE ARE TWO ENTIRE ALLIANCES OF GALKA RMT BOTS! lol.
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08-13-2021, 10:08 PMSfchakan
I'm amazed they can still post simply because they've been much more toxic about it than people in the past who have been banned from here for so much less. The moderation on SE's forums used to be so heavy handed!
I support the efforts, just not the method. Posting this stuff here is simply spam/useless. Being rude to people telling you that is unnecessary. -
08-14-2021, 01:43 AMTharly
Hey looky that! Now there are two alliances in respose to your threads.....
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08-14-2021, 09:35 AMYvone
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08-14-2021, 11:36 AMAlhanelemMy sentiments exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sfchakan
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08-14-2021, 11:44 AMYvone
There is no alternative method. You can file a thousand reports and never see a single ban. Trust me. Like I said, I track them.
So the only option is to prove that reports ARE being filed. No where better than their own forum. And they clearly don't like it. That means it's working. -
08-14-2021, 12:11 PMZehiraI don't know about it. This could also prove that reports are being ignored.Quote:
No where better than their own forum. And they clearly don't like it. That means it's working.
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08-14-2021, 12:23 PMYvone
It does prove they're being ignored. It proves they're being sent in, by me, and ignored by them. That's the point.
HoW dO yOu KnOw ThEy IgNoRe ThEm? Reported bot is still there a week after the report. Simple enough. No other possible outcome. -
08-14-2021, 12:29 PMAlhanelemProve to who? You can't post here if you aren't a player, and pretty much anyone who ever comes here is either a current or former player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yvone
The only option is to file reports. Nobody else cares whether or not you're filing them.
Further, yes, they don't like it, nobody who has a forum likes people spamming it with useless posts. The only end result of your behavior is you getting banned from the forums or your threads getting deleted. A staff member responded to your original topic, that's the most you're ever going to get out of them.
If you have any expectation that if you're annoying enough, SE will start banning bots just to make you stop posting spam, you've got another thing coming. That's aside the fact that even if they ban every character you've posted about so far, there's no guarantee you'll stop or be any less obnoxious about it. So there is no incentive for them to suddenly behave differently just because you're spamming the forum.
Maybe if you found a large number of other people who cared as much about this group of botters as you do, maybe that might add a little more weight to it, until then, one person posting screenshots of their own reports isn't going to do donkey doody.
Show me some more people as obsessive as you are about outing botters (and not sock puppet accounts that are actually just you). Bring them here, and have them lend weight to your cause. Then and only then, i might believe you could have any influence at all. -
08-14-2021, 04:35 PMZehiraI lol'd... As far as I can tell with this forum we are always being tracked. They can see what threads you have visited, read deleted posts, and others and even took the banner out of Alhanelem's sight. That was hilarious but yeah maybe I need to stop judging.Quote:
(and not sock puppet accounts that are actually just you)
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08-14-2021, 10:28 PMCatmato
I don't get why so many people care about one person posting in one thread about something they're clearly passionate about. You know what the thread is going to contain before you click on it, yet you still click on it. If it bothers you that much, just don't click on the thread. Yvone isn't hurting anyone but themself (and maybe the bots).
Just to clarify, as long as you don't clear your cookies, you can stay logged in from one WBC to the next without being subscribed to the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alhanelem
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08-14-2021, 11:35 PMYvone
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08-15-2021, 12:31 AMZehiraI am still subscribed. Haven't stopped paying since then.Quote:
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08-15-2021, 08:23 AMYvone
that's odd. Did they just accidently undelete/unlock/consolidate posts in this one, while deleting the other one.
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08-15-2021, 10:31 AMAlhanelemI'm well aware, but you are still a player or were in the past. You have to have a game account that played at some point in order to post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Catmato
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08-15-2021, 01:59 PMZehiraThat's what I was trying to tell you. We are always being tracked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yvone
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08-15-2021, 09:03 PMYvone
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08-16-2021, 09:26 PMYvone
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08-17-2021, 07:55 AMYvone
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08-17-2021, 08:45 PMYvone