Change your wyvern color!

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Originally Posted by Coldbrand

Darn, I guess that just means you'll have to give us Lancet instead of something useless. What a shame. /sigh, I'll have to make do with Reis Wind and Six Dragons I guess. Oh well.

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Because your obnoxious little snipes are going to be enough to get an ability as potent as Six Dragons or Reis Wind for dragoons.

Yes. Those are for more realistic requests of the dev team than a bit of individuality.

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Originally Posted by Troca

Because your obnoxious little snipes are going to be enough to get an ability as potent as Six Dragons or Reis Wind for dragoons.

Yes. Those are for more realistic requests of the dev team than a bit of individuality.

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Oh no, regenga and drain/aspir, surely this will unravel the entire balance of FFXI.

Especially as we enter the final tier of character levels. Apparently requests are only realistic if they have 0 impact on gameplay and would seal off DRG's final levels as having received nothing of real value. Thanks for the tip!

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Originally Posted by Foxclon

Greetings adventurers!

As always, we thank you for your thoughtful and enthusiastic feedback.

We would like nothing more than to implement a feature to personalize wyvern color. Unfortunately, while technically possible, this would require considerably more work than it might appear at first glance. It is not just a matter of changing color values, but rather would require new textures to be created for each color scheme. This means that, sadly, a feature similar to the linkshell hue selection is simply not feasible.

With a full plate of updates on the way—a milestone list for forthcoming version updates will be released in the near future—cosmetic updates will have to be given lower priority. Still, we understand dragoons' strong feelings about this issue, so we’d like to revisit it should the opportunity present itself somewhere down the line.

Thank you for your understanding!

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Well, if we can't get this yet, can I recruit Areuhat as a pet? :D

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Originally Posted by Coldbrand

Oh no, regenga and drain/aspir, surely this will unravel the entire balance of FFXI.

Especially as we enter the final tier of character levels. Apparently requests are only realistic if they have 0 impact on gameplay and would seal off DRG's final levels as having received nothing of real value. Thanks for the tip!

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This was the topic a mod decided to respond to instead of your bellyaching about something that may well be on the way, already. That, and the dozens of posts in this thread before it tell me more than a few people find value in the concept of a customizable wyvern.

Sorry that doesn't coincide with your hardcore FFXI e-peen fest.

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Originally Posted by Foxclon

Greetings adventurers!

As always, we thank you for your thoughtful and enthusiastic feedback.

We would like nothing more than to implement a feature to personalize wyvern color. Unfortunately, while technically possible, this would require considerably more work than it might appear at first glance. It is not just a matter of changing color values, but rather would require new textures to be created for each color scheme. This means that, sadly, a feature similar to the linkshell hue selection is simply not feasible.

With a full plate of updates on the way—a milestone list for forthcoming version updates will be released in the near future—cosmetic updates will have to be given lower priority. Still, we understand dragoons' strong feelings about this issue, so we’d like to revisit it should the opportunity present itself somewhere down the line.

Thank you for your understanding!

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I'm not sure why this is unfeasible, as with the Linkshell Icon, which ultimately is a UI icon with a base color (probably a light gray) with shading or ambient occlusion applied, selecting hue and saturation just applied the color code to the image, why can there not be a base UVW texture for the wyvern with shading or ambient occlusion applied and the same system for the Linkshell hue and saturation be applied to that as well? Granted, the main coding issue would have to just modify that one single UVW inside that .dat file...

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Originally Posted by Troca

This was the topic a mod decided to respond to instead of your bellyaching about something that may well be on the way, already. That, and the dozens of posts in this thread before it tell me more than a few people find value in the concept of a customizable wyvern.

Sorry that doesn't coincide with your hardcore FFXI e-peen fest.

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Yeah, asking to have the second most classic ability Dragoon's have after Jump is an "e-peen fest". You're a real cool guy.

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Originally Posted by Foxclon

Greetings adventurers!

As always, we thank you for your thoughtful and enthusiastic feedback.

We would like nothing more than to implement a feature to personalize wyvern color. Unfortunately, while technically possible, this would require considerably more work than it might appear at first glance. It is not just a matter of changing color values, but rather would require new textures to be created for each color scheme. This means that, sadly, a feature similar to the linkshell hue selection is simply not feasible.

With a full plate of updates on the way—a milestone list for forthcoming version updates will be released in the near future—cosmetic updates will have to be given lower priority. Still, we understand dragoons' strong feelings about this issue, so we’d like to revisit it should the opportunity present itself somewhere down the line.

Thank you for your understanding!

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It's a sad day for our wyvern customization apparently, even though it was a resounding success as far as topics go for our job forum.

We won't get Lancet.
English: Spirit Surge
Japanese: 竜剣
Romanji: Ryuuken.
Translation: Dragon Sword

Ryuuken is what Lancer/Lancet/DragonSword were called in the Japanese versions of FF9/FF10/FF5 respectively, so Spirit Surge=Lancet.

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Originally Posted by Foxclon

Greetings adventurers!

As always, we thank you for your thoughtful and enthusiastic feedback.

We would like nothing more than to implement a feature to personalize wyvern color. Unfortunately, while technically possible, this would require considerably more work than it might appear at first glance. It is not just a matter of changing color values, but rather would require new textures to be created for each color scheme. This means that, sadly, a feature similar to the linkshell hue selection is simply not feasible.

With a full plate of updates on the way—a milestone list for forthcoming version updates will be released in the near future—cosmetic updates will have to be given lower priority. Still, we understand dragoons' strong feelings about this issue, so we’d like to revisit it should the opportunity present itself somewhere down the line.

Thank you for your understanding!

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all due respect and all but going along with this comment:

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Originally Posted by CrystalWeapon

I don't mean to get into the legal/illegal realm, but I think you guys should let the commuminity design some dats for the game. I know there are several people that are damn good at it. Personally I wouldn't mind doing more than a handful of reskins for the game for free for both armor and mobs.

I appreciate the response though, and I'm glad you guys are focusing on major updates over aesthetics.

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I may be stepping on red lines with this following comment but what about people that make their own dats and change the wyvern be a taru or fafnir or change the color them self ( i saw a vid where someone dat changed kirin into one of those child girl taru)

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Originally Posted by Rambus

I may be stepping on red lines with this following comment but what about people that make their own dats and change the wyvern be a taru or fafnir or change the color them self ( i saw a vid where someone dat changed kirin into one of those child girl taru)

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I'll put it to you this way, if I had a confirmation that this was in fact not illegal. If I knew for sure I wouldn't get banned for it, I would be more than happy to take the time over the week to reskin 30+ wyvern .dats and post them here. I would gladly do what I could to help them out, but I would not risk my character over something they may ban me for dispite trying to help them for free.

ya i would love to have a wyvern like the black ones in dynamis

Thanks for the reply, but as a dat modder (dont ban me! =/) Creating wyvren meshes and graphcis is about a 3 hour, if not less, job. The real reason, id imagine, is that the SE dev team is either incredibly busy with new content, or SE is cutting down expenses and therefore work time for the devs. Regardless, thanks again for addressing the issue, its been a long time coming.

Not to mention every blue Wyvern file in the game (enemy and player alike) uses the same file, same with the black ones (not counting the Ark Angel GK one since that one glows like an Avatar). Creating customizable Wyvern colors would require recoding how the game reads pet Wyvern graphics.

The issue isn't so much with the recoloring of the BMPs, but rather how they would code the game to read the new files independently for EACH and EVERY player.

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Originally Posted by Babygyrl

Not to mention every blue Wyvern file in the game (enemy and player alike) uses the same file, same with the black ones (not counting the Ark Angel GK one since that one glows like an Avatar). Creating customizable Wyvern colors would require recoding how the game reads pet Wyvern graphics.

The issue isn't so much with the recoloring of the BMPs, but rather how they would code the game to read the new files independently for EACH and EVERY player.

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When you code you do things generically so each event / method / class can be used for multiple purposes. Willing to bet that fellowship npcs, beast pets, avatars, wyverns, auto's etc... all share a simple npc creation event. An npc is created, a model to render is assigned, and then the npc is registered to a player. The npc acts like a mob that follows players actions / movements and has it's own independent ai, as apposed to being physically attached to that character like armor rendering. If I'm right reskinning wyverns would be a matter of changing the wyvern npc data to include some kind of flag to determine which dat to render, but unlike beast and auto's you wouldn't need to change anything else in the table. Its stats, abilities, etc are only changed via subjob.

They said it themselves that the time consuming part would be reskinning the models, which does take alot of time when you have a smaller dev team than in the past. They're already burning the candle at both ends to code the upcoming big update as well as create the graphics for new armor / content that will come with it. I just wish I could help, because I would in a heartbeat.

I'm late in responding, but I still like this idea. Of course it would be weird to see wyverns named Azure that are not blue.

Also late but, great idea /vote

well it would only really be a matter of assigning different color rendered models, which btw they already have 3 of the models made (blue regular, black dynamis wyverns, white sea wynavs)

(Late lol) I like this idea. Lets us get into roleplaying our character a bit more seriously.

I don't have a problem with my wyvern's color, but it would be nice to be able to differentiate b/w wyverns in a multiple DRG party w/o having to read the names

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Originally Posted by Foxclon

Greetings adventurers!

As always, we thank you for your thoughtful and enthusiastic feedback.

We would like nothing more than to implement a feature to personalize wyvern color. Unfortunately, while technically possible, this would require considerably more work than it might appear at first glance. It is not just a matter of changing color values, but rather would require new textures to be created for each color scheme. This means that, sadly, a feature similar to the linkshell hue selection is simply not feasible.

With a full plate of updates on the way—a milestone list for forthcoming version updates will be released in the near future—cosmetic updates will have to be given lower priority. Still, we understand dragoons' strong feelings about this issue, so we’d like to revisit it should the opportunity present itself somewhere down the line.

Thank you for your understanding!

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No offense, but this is one excuse I'm not buying into. The different colored wyvern is something that drg's have been asking for as long as I can remember, and I have been playing since December of 2004. This means drg's have probably been wanting it since before I started playing.

But then we got TOAU and along with that we got chocobo raising, which may or may not have been a total waste of time for some people. But you gave us the possibility of colored chocobo's. This was probably the best chance to offer colored wyverns and now 4 years later we get the excuse of "it's not currently feasible/too much on the plate". Im glad you're paying some attention to the thread, but that does not mean I'm gonna just buy these excuses when it's clearly been done once already for very a minor addition to the game.

Really SE what is happening with you guys?, 6~9 years ago FFXI was the best MMORPG, you opened this forum to receive feedbacks from the players and to looks what we are wanting, and what we receive? Dynamis-Reborn? (a thread in which the majority of the players are against) New Trigger Conditions to pop Fafnir, Nidhogg, Behemoth and King Behemoth (another thread in which, player are against of implement it). I know you have lot of work to do and I am not against it, but you should take a closer look on what the players really want, as stated by many DRGs on this thread, this is not something new, we have been asking this for years, in the end we are the ones who are playing and this past months has been a wth? is happening with FFXI, many changes are expected to take action, but please do it properly, the general feeling of the players is not good, you have been focusing in add-ons scenarios and not in the expansions, you have been focusing on add more stuffs to do (when we already have many stuffs to do, but many players just don't do it because the rewards are gimped now) why not take a closer look on what we really want and not in what you think we want?.

I know you are working hard but please there are some content we would like to take effect in the short run (like this thread) than other stuffs, if you could delay the world merge, you can delay other stuffs in favor of what your customers wants more, anyway hope you read this, and thank you for taking the time to give us an explanation.

This is the 2nd or 3rd response from SE stating something along the lines of player requested changes being a "low-priority" to other things.
What other things? Things like [dex1012]? What a waste of time. SE did the same thing with the promyvions, what good did that do? Things like [dev1011]? Treasure caskets...seriously? I've soloed 3 or 4 jobs to level 50 and roughly a dozen to level 30 and I've rarely ever had the need for the items found in these random chests.

I would consider things such as this (wyvern color customization) one of the highest priorities. What separates a good game from a great game is the little things. FFXI already has the makings of a really good game, a VAST and complex story, lots of areas to explore and quests to do, tons of jobs to play, etc. FFXI is pretty late into it's life cycle and is obviously not getting nearly as much attention as FFXIV, why not take the time to make lots of the smaller tweaks that people have been wanting for so long?
Just my 2 gil. :)

As they state, they couldn't use a system like the linkshell colour selection. They would have to make individually recoloured .dat models for each wyvern colour. However they also play up how long it would take. It wouldn't be an obscene amount of time or manpower required. Recolouring .dats is a fairly simple process.

That aside, there are already three different wyvern dats in the game. Kindred Wyvern, Wynav and Wyvern (Pet). Even the option to choose between one of these would be a start, and would hardly be a difficult idea. Concidering Dynamis and Sea are sort of other dimensions already (Well, Lumoria is in Space and Dynamis is a Dream), and that abyssea is completely based on another dimension, it would not be out of cannon for an abyssea NPC to be able to change your blue wyvern into his Sea Wynav or Dynamis Kindred Wyvern for you.

Now would it be hard to implement either. Choose one of 3 wyvern choices > personal wyvern dat changed from rom/###/###.dat to rom/###/###.dat.

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Originally Posted by noodles355

That aside, there are already three different wyvern dats in the game. Kindred Wyvern, Wynav and Wyvern (Pet). Even the option to choose between one of these would be a start, and would hardly be a difficult idea. Concidering Dynamis and Sea are sort of other dimensions already (Well, Lumoria is in Space and Dynamis is a Dream), and that abyssea is completely based on another dimension, it would not be out of cannon for an abyssea NPC to be able to change your blue wyvern into his Sea Wynav or Dynamis Kindred Wyvern for you.

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Nice idea... Choosing between existing in game wyverns would be a good compromise. Not that it's a major issue but would this effect the Emotes??

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Originally Posted by noodles355

That aside, there are already three different wyvern dats in the game. Kindred Wyvern, Wynav and Wyvern (Pet).

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There are actually 4. Ark Angel GK has a unique black wyvern that is similar to the dynamis wyverns, only it has a faint avatar type glow to it.

Yeah, I'd love my wyvern to look like the Dynamis wyverns. LET US CHOOSE THE WYVERN COLOR!!!

Give the devs a break ~.~ They told you why they couldn't do that AT THIS TIME. So they'll either TRY to input this feature in the future, or they'll give you something else that'll distract you from this.

or they change at certain points as they lvl.

I would love for new wyvern colors. It's a really nice way to customize your drg. Doesn't need to be crazy like stripes or poka-dots but your basic colors would be great. Black/White/Red/Yellow/Orange/Blue/Green/Indigo/Purple. I mean come on, the lizards and reptiles of nature come in different colors ^^.

YES PLZ!!! AMEN

Red
Dark Red
Light Red
Yellow
Dark Yellow
Light Yellow
Green
Dark Green
Light Green
Blue
Dark Blue
Light Blue
Purple
Dark Purple
Light Purple
Orange
Dark Orange
Light Orange
Brown
Dark Brown
Light Brown
Pink
Dark Pink
Light Pink
White
Grey
Black

At LEAST give us these colors. Variety please!

kuddos to this post, I agree more customization!

more choices work for me

Why is this not in yet?

Just got my AF body piece... Purple really does clash with the wyvern colour!! Please let us coordinate our look. (lol)

I'd be happy with White, Black, Red, Green, Violet, Gold, Silver, Copper, Brass, Bronze, and puce...

Maybe one with poke-dots... ^^

Would also like to be able to feed him some food like the rest of the pet populations.....hides the tarus on sticks

Just checking in on my old thread, but I see it is as popular as ever. =)

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Nice idea... Choosing between existing in game wyverns would be a good compromise. Not that it's a major issue but would this effect the Emotes??

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Nope, you can dat swap your blue wyvern for a kindred wyvern or wynav and see for yourself. All the emotes and everything work with each wyvern.