sony's cryptofail and jacking linux support means they deserve every little bad thing that happens to them.
PS2 - Real info request.
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03-21-2011, 06:40 AMNattack
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03-21-2011, 06:53 AMJoslynQuote:
Originally Posted by Byrth
I have a better Idea just give everyone what they want and Make FFXIV into FFXI-2, give the jobs back, the quests and missions are like they should be, open up the AH, remove the lvling limitation, make it so I can just pay like I am for FFXI no stupid monthly time buying...And while there at it let those that still play FFXI be able to transfer there account info over so I dont have to start a new one -
03-21-2011, 06:56 AMMirage
Backwards compatibility with PS2 wouldn't help anyway, because the PS2 would be emulating the PS2 version of the game, with the same limitations as the game has got on PS2.
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03-21-2011, 06:58 AMJagerForresterFFXIV was their original plan to answer FFXI's growing PS2 problem. I remember reading that they didn't expect FFXI to live this long. So maybe they still believe FFXI isn't going to last even if they drop PS2 support. Or maybe their sole focus is to get FFXIV running successfully and let FFXI kill itself slowly... that didn't sound right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Byrth
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03-21-2011, 07:00 AMNattack
and then ff14... hurhur, oh how the tables turn.
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03-21-2011, 07:00 AMInfamousDSVMs (Virtual Machines) use a host system to emulate an OS. They bear all the specs of host specifically tailored by the user to meet their demands and the demands of the OS. Therefore, an emulated system is bound by the host and not restricted by itself. As a result, PS3 could have a VM (or Cloud for you Microsoft Fans) that replicates the OS of the PS2, allowing all PS2 compatibility using the physical hardware of the PS3. I do it all the time to play old PC games, and run FF through my XP VM because it runs smoother.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirage
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03-21-2011, 07:00 AMSatyr...oh how about the fact that FFXI looks absolutely gorgeous when you crank up the graphics on PC. Have you ever seen FFXI on full graphics on a large widescreen monitor? It is amazing how good it can look compared to what is considered "current" mmos. FFXI always looks terrible on PS2, whether you are running it through a 13in kitchen TV or a 55in 1080p LDC HDTV.Quote:
Originally Posted by Laraul
With that said if you look at FFXI said by side with other MMOs, the others will look significantly better. I doubt that anyone would argue that FFXI looks better than the current incarnation(lol their next expansion is called incarna) of EVE online. But lets look at EVE online for example, and to a lesser extent WOW. If you compare screenshots from EVE when it was launched to screenshots taken now, it has had some massive graphics upgrades. So much so that EVE now would be very difficult to run on a computer that could have ran it when it was released. Wow is another example to a lesser extent. While it does not look like it to someone who has never played WOW, the system requirements and the load on the graphics card has increased significantly between vanilla WOW and it's current expansion, even if you run the game on it's lowest settings.
When I used to play WOW, the computer that I had when the game launched had no problems running the game. But by the time the second expansion rolled around (WotLK), I had trouble running it even on the lowest graphics settings. I remedied this by saving up for a bit and dropping 600 bucks at newegg to get the parts to build my own PC. In the end I was able to run 3 instances of WOW at the same time, all on ultra graphics settings with no noticeable graphics lag at all.
The point here is that I wanted to play WOW enough so that I was willing to adapt, and I did, and it was one of the best things I have ever spent money on because now i have a PC that is 2 years old that still has no problems running current games on the highest graphics settings and if the issue ever arises where I cannot do so I can just get a new graphics card and I am set, no need to buy a completely new machine. And believe it or not, when you aren't playing FFXI....*whispers* a computer is still useful...unlike a PS2 (360 has netflix lol). And in the case of the players from the other games...neither EVE nor WOW lost customers despite basically forcing people to upgrade. In fact both companies gained customers overall. -
03-21-2011, 07:06 AMMirageI don't think Sony is able to make a VM that can run PS2 games on PS3 anyway. They used PS2 hardware in the PS3s earlier to make it work, and dropped support completely when they stopped using those.Quote:
Originally Posted by InfamousDS
Anyway, my point is that it's not something S-E can do alone without porting the game to run on PS3 natively, like they did with the xb360 version. -
03-21-2011, 07:11 AMSatyr
Another thing...people are talking about how this game is so old and that SE should be focusing on newer things and that it is not worth it for them drop PS2 support because it is so old. EVE is older than FFXI and it still continues to get new players and is in no danger of going away any time soon. It is in SE's best interest to update the game for modern times. This game is dying not because of how old it is, but because it is stuck in 2003 (mostly due to the PS2).
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03-21-2011, 07:13 AMNattack
indeed, i was hoping - although realistically knew otherwise - that rapture was going to be a revamped ffxi engine.
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03-21-2011, 07:22 AMCrystalWeaponI don't think it's in their plans to let xi die if they can help it. When XIV is well enough to stand on it's own it's monthly fee will be very similar to XI, unless of course they change the amount it was originally set at. ($12.99) For a basic single account with one character. $3.00 per mule.Quote:
Originally Posted by JagerForrester
http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...vi/envi04.html
XI's being at $12.95. $1.00 per mule.
http://www.playonline.com/ff11eu/envi/charge.html
It would be kinda foolish to try to kill off XI or even force a move to XIV since you would risk losing players for hardly any gain per month in subscription fees between the two. I think what they really want to do is to get players on both games if they can. As far as not getting much feedback on the ps2 topic, dispite it being a really heated debate back and forth on several different threads, tells me that they are either:
1) Thinking about it. Trying to nudge players to switch by not offering the ps2 disks off their site and a general lack of hardware support.
2) Not mentioning that they absolutely will not drop the ps2, because in doing so this would discourage alot of players who are hoping for some major changes in the way of new content.
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03-21-2011, 07:48 AMJagerForresterI fully agree. SE has always been secretive in what they are planning. Waiting and hoping for things to be fixed is the best solution as of right now for us as players. I'm happy there's someone out there I don't need to debate my strong points to.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrystalWeapon
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03-21-2011, 07:49 AMTsukino_KajiThey're not making promises that they can't back up in layman's terms.Quote:
Originally Posted by JagerForrester
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03-21-2011, 07:49 AMHarpalina
lol there's always going to be debates no matter what thread you go in to...
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03-21-2011, 08:05 AMJagerForresterYeah, but at least CrystalWeapon isn't one of those people who are on the other side of the bench. He and I are on the same page. Made my day today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harpalina
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03-21-2011, 08:06 AMLloydofpudding
Honestly ps2 is such a dinosaur in terms of gaming consules. People that refuse to use newer systems should be left in the dust. FFXI runs smooth on my old computer that can't run newer games just fine. If the whole option of needing a controller to play, you can turn old controllers into pc controllers. Honestly if you can't afford a half way decent pc or a xbox 360 then maybe you should get a job and do an upgrade.