Haste and You... A guide to the misinformed.

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03-14-2011, 12:59 PM
HFX7686

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Originally Posted by Naturebeckles

No, it doesn't. I may not be the absolute best player in the game, but I'm not a bad player. At all. None of you on this thread even play with me on the game to even make that call. So all of you who say I'm a bad player just because I'm not a haste whore can take a flying leap off a short pier for all I care.

Based on the description of your gear and play style most experienced players would be able to come to the likely correct conclusion that you are a bad player.
03-14-2011, 12:59 PM
RaenRyong

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Why not? Why can't I advocate other styles of play in an informative thread?

For the sake of the thread's integrity, provide information with the same or similar level of depth to the original post's.

Provide mathematical or logically reasoned evidence to suggest that not swapping gear produces better results than swapping gear and using full Haste for TP. If you can do that, I will gladly remove my criticism.
03-14-2011, 01:00 PM
Naturebeckles

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Originally Posted by Cream_Soda

We'd be able to leap off the pier faster than you. We have haste.

Then by all means! Be my guest! LOL
03-14-2011, 01:00 PM
Niyah

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Originally Posted by rog

It's sad that this is worth posting in 2011.

After all these years of playing FFXI, I hope new members understand the importance of haste. I hate always having to remind mages to haste.

Great guide Frost!!!
03-14-2011, 01:01 PM
HFX7686

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Originally Posted by RaenRyong

For the sake of the thread's integrity, provide information with the same or similar level of depth to the original post's.

Provide mathematical or logically reasoned evidence to suggest that not swapping gear produces better results than swapping gear and using full Haste for TP. If you can do that, I will gladly remove my criticism.

Repeating this for emphasis. Go for it Naturebeckles.
03-14-2011, 01:01 PM
Cream_Soda

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Originally Posted by Naturebeckles

Exactly... not going to find agreeing opinions. And equally, several of you saying I'm a bad player is also subjective and I might add BASELESS since nobody on this thread so far plays with me to have any observations to back up that opinion.

On that note, your saying that you're a good player is also baseless.
03-14-2011, 01:06 PM
Naturebeckles

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Originally Posted by RaenRyong

For the sake of the thread's integrity, provide information with the same or similar level of depth to the original post's.

Provide mathematical or logically reasoned evidence to suggest that not swapping gear produces better results than swapping gear and using full Haste for TP. If you can do that, I will gladly remove my criticism.

well, first of all... I never claimed that my game style produces better results. I just said there's nothing wrong with my game style.

Let me say this to all of you:

I lead Dynamis runs. Successfully. Most of our LS has access to all zones. I've been leading Dynamis for a year now. I'm the main puller. I often lead events in my social LS for mission fights/Boss fights, etc because I'm very good at battle strategy. Even if we fail the first time, I'm good at pointing out our groups mistakes and adjusting things to make it a success the next time. Why do I say all this? To provide examples of how I'm a good player.

Maybe my downfall is the fact that I don't gear swap for WS's and build lots of haste. Ok.

But - for you to call me a bad player based on that one fact? Just proves how judgmental and ignorant you are and is exactly why I don't play with a lot of "elitest" players who have gear choices on such a high pedestal, that you'd call a good player a bad one without knowing jack about that person outside of their gear choices.

Golf claps for all of you.
03-14-2011, 01:08 PM
Cream_Soda

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etc because I'm very good at battle strategy.

I can picture it now

"Ok guys, nobody swap gear. This way, the whm can't miss you w/ his spells!"
03-14-2011, 01:09 PM
rog

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But - for you to call me a bad player based on that one fact?

Yes. If you understood even basic game concepts, you would never gear yourself that way. But you do, which means you don't have any clue how the game works. You are likely doing all kinds of other incredibly silly things (like not knowing about <stpt>...) as well.
03-14-2011, 01:10 PM
HFX7686

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Originally Posted by Naturebeckles

well, first of all... I never claimed that my game style produces better results. I just said there's nothing wrong with my game style.

The OP showed you mathematically what was wrong with your game style.

This is not an elitist equation. You could put a little work in and get a few pieces of fairly easily obtainable gear and change your play style based on this thread. This is not camping Fafnir/Nidhogg every day for 3 hours at all hours sort of work.
03-14-2011, 01:10 PM
Invasion

I stack Double Attack over Haste myself.
03-14-2011, 01:12 PM
Greatguardian

If the semantics are that big a deal, fine. You're a good player.

You're a horrible DD.

But you're fine as a player if those are your standards.
03-14-2011, 01:14 PM
Naturebeckles

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Originally Posted by HFX7686

The OP showed you mathematically what was wrong with your game style.

This is not an elitist equation. You could put a little work in and get a few pieces of fairly easily obtainable gear and change your play style based on this thread. This is not camping Fafnir/Nidhogg every day for 3 hours at all hours sort of work.

On my thf I wear the Aurore Hat and Gloves (when i don't need my TH Gloves), the earring from ZM that gives enhanced dual wield effect and a swift belt. That's all the haste I wear. It's just not my emphasis to wear other pieces and then gear swap for weapon skills.
03-14-2011, 01:15 PM
rog

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Originally Posted by Invasion

I stack Double Attack over Haste myself.

What, not triple attack?
03-14-2011, 01:15 PM
Naturebeckles

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Originally Posted by Invasion

I stack Double Attack over Haste myself.

I was beginning to think i was alone in here. lol
03-14-2011, 01:17 PM
Naturebeckles

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

If the semantics are that big a deal, fine. You're a good player.

You're a horrible DD.

But you're fine as a player if those are your standards.

I can admit I'm not a good DD... even wearing Byakko's Haidates and Kirin's Osode on my War and Sam. I know I'm not the best. I'm okay with that.
03-14-2011, 01:17 PM
rog

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Originally Posted by Naturebeckles

I can admit I'm not a good DD... even wearing Byakko's Haidates and Kirin's Osode on my War and Sam. I know I'm not the best. I'm okay with that.

You are not even in the top 75%.
03-14-2011, 01:17 PM
Cream_Soda

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Originally Posted by Naturebeckles

I was beginning to think i was alone in here. lol

He was probably being sarcastic.

Well that's how I read it anyways. If not, then lol.
03-14-2011, 01:18 PM
rog

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Originally Posted by Cream_Soda

He was probably being sarcastic.

Well that's how I read it anyways. If not, then lol.

I sure hope so.
03-14-2011, 01:18 PM
Cream_Soda

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Originally Posted by rog

You are not even in the top 75%.

http://i33.tinypic.com/28lb4uf.jpg
03-14-2011, 01:18 PM
Naturebeckles

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Originally Posted by rog

You are not even in the top 75%.

Not everybody can be as good as you, rog.
03-14-2011, 01:19 PM
rog

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Originally Posted by Naturebeckles

Not everybody can be as good as you, rog.

That's ok, as long as you put some effort in, and do as well as you can do.
03-14-2011, 01:20 PM
Alkalinehoe

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Originally Posted by Naturebeckles

On my thf I wear the Aurore Hat and Gloves (when i don't need my TH Gloves), the earring from ZM that gives enhanced dual wield effect and a swift belt. That's all the haste I wear. It's just not my emphasis to wear other pieces and then gear swap for weapon skills.

/facepalm.

You're a leader of a dynamis shell and aurore is really the best you can do? But then I guess it's not like Dynamis is really an accomplishment.
03-14-2011, 01:21 PM
Naturebeckles

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Originally Posted by Alkalinehoe

/facepalm.

You're a leader of a dynamis shell and aurore is really the best you can do? But then I guess it's not like Dynamis is really an accomplishment.

Oh, but I guess standing around in Port Jeuno wearing pretty gear with your thumb up your butt is an accomplishment? I bet you do really well at that.
03-14-2011, 01:24 PM
Invasion

Yea don't mind me, just trollin.
03-14-2011, 01:25 PM
Invasion

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Originally Posted by Naturebeckles

I was beginning to think i was alone in here. lol

You are still alone in here.
03-14-2011, 01:28 PM
Naturebeckles

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Originally Posted by Invasion

You are still alone in here.

well, that's ok. Soon, only the haste whores will be left. I have school tomorrow and need to go to bed.
03-14-2011, 01:29 PM
rog

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Originally Posted by Naturebeckles

well, that's ok. Soon, only the haste whores will be left. I have school tomorrow and need to go to bed.

I hope the bullies at your HS don't bother you too much :(
03-14-2011, 01:29 PM
Invasion

Sounds like you need it.
03-14-2011, 01:31 PM
Naturebeckles

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Originally Posted by rog

I hope the bullies at your HS don't bother you too much :(

I'm 31 years old and have been out of high school for a while now. I'm in technical school for 40 hours a week to learn a new job since jobs suck around here.
03-14-2011, 01:33 PM
Alkalinehoe

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Originally Posted by Naturebeckles

Oh, but I guess standing around in Port Jeuno wearing pretty gear with your thumb up your butt is an accomplishment? I bet you do really well at that.

I actually do really well at that, along with 99% of game content. Look, if you want to feign ignorance that's fine and dandy, but trying to take swipes at people who actually enjoy playing the game with some intelligence then maybe you shouldn't post in this thread.
03-14-2011, 01:33 PM
Cream_Soda

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Originally Posted by Naturebeckles

well, that's ok. Soon, only the haste whores will be left. I have school tomorrow and need to go to bed.

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Originally Posted by Naturebeckles

I'm 31 years old and have been out of high school for a while now. I'm in technical school for 40 hours a week to learn a new job since jobs suck around here.

how's that sleep workin out for you?
03-14-2011, 01:35 PM
Naturebeckles

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Originally Posted by Alkalinehoe

I actually do really well at that, along with 99% of game content. Look, if you want to feign ignorance that's fine and dandy, but trying to take swipes at people who actually enjoy playing the game with some intelligence then maybe you shouldn't post in this thread.

I was wondering if you were going to post before I decided to go to bed.

Um, let's see... I'm a person with at least SOME intelligence who also enjoys playing the game. You took the first swipe. I was just returning the favor. Have a nice night.
03-14-2011, 01:37 PM
Alkalinehoe

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Originally Posted by Naturebeckles

I was wondering if you were going to post before I decided to go to bed.

Um, let's see... I'm a person with at least SOME intelligence who also enjoys playing the game. You took the first swipe. I was just returning the favor. Have a nice night.

It took a while to come up since you wear so little haste.
03-14-2011, 01:37 PM
Cream_Soda

Goodnight again
03-14-2011, 01:37 PM
rog

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Originally Posted by Naturebeckles

Um, let's see... I'm a person with at least SOME intelligence

Ah, that's good.
03-14-2011, 01:41 PM
Naturebeckles

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Originally Posted by Alkalinehoe

It took a while to come up since you wear so little haste.

So you wear the best gear in the game but use a crappy computer and internet service?
03-14-2011, 01:42 PM
Cream_Soda

Welcome back
03-14-2011, 01:43 PM
Alkalinehoe

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Originally Posted by Naturebeckles

So you wear the best gear in the game but use a crappy computer and internet service?

When did I claim to have the best gear? I just gear sensibly, something you do not do.

And it's past your bedtime! Get in bed!
03-14-2011, 01:43 PM
Kuishen

Can't resist posting any longer.

Fact: Using Haste in your TP set, as stated by the OP, increases your damage.

Fact: Not using gear swaps means you do not understand basic game mechanics.

Fact: Not understanding basic game mechanics means you are not a good player.

Fact: The above statement is true for any game, sport, etc.

Opinion: Naturebeckles is a moron.

Fact: This post is a clear representation of the difference between a fact and opinion.

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