Fed up

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Originally Posted by MojoJojo

That seems to be the biggest gripe people have right? Sure you could walk away without that fancy body piece you wanted, or some other guy in the ls/shout party got it, it's alot better than standing around for 12hours with 10 other ls's just to watch some bot get a claim....or kill the damn thing and get nothing. The whole VW thing sounds like people are pissed you can't blue proc the mob for 100% droprate....

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I like Voidwatch as an event very much. My issue is what Nynja so colorfully put it. Getting crap not once but 2 to 3 times for a person who can't even use it. It's stupid, thoughtless and retarded.

Drop system needs to be allowed to let players pool their loot if they don't want/need it.

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Originally Posted by Teraniku

So basically this whole thread can be translated into this:

"I'm not getting what I want fast enough because I think the Voidwatch / Abyssea / Einherjar drop system sucks! Give me what I want now SE!"

See there in lies the rub. Give you what you want too quickly, then you're bored because there's nothing to do and quit. If you don't get what you want because you think the events too hard or has a crappy drop system? then you rant and eventually /ragequit. Then after you get what you want, you don't do the event anymore and help everyone else get their stuff too. (Which we are all guilty of to some extent or the other). SE is trying to find a balance to keep everyone playing for as long as possible. Trying to find a balance that pleases everyone is nigh impossible.

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VW and WoE are only 2 events. What most users really want are new contents. New zones, new storyline, new missions, adventures, etc, etc. Yeah it's great to get all these brand new gears and weapons and all that but there lies the great problem: what setting will you be needing to use the great new toys in? I think a lot of us are hoping in the back of our head that there is a new 'REAL' expansion out there somewhere. But really, SE need to come out and at least announce this and while they're at it, it sure wont hurt if they get rid of the insanity loot system of both WoE and VW. No one wants anymore Logs and Ores and other junks!

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Alhanelem, you troll every single thread i read, having Gamerescape in your signature does them a great disservice.

@Nala how the heck did you forget bst SE king of "NO"

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Originally Posted by Dreamin

VW and WoE are only 2 events. What most users really want are new contents. New zones, new storyline, new missions, adventures, etc, etc. Yeah it's great to get all these brand new gears and weapons and all that but there lies the great problem: what setting will you be needing to use the great new toys in? I think a lot of us are hoping in the back of our head that there is a new 'REAL' expansion out there somewhere. But really, SE need to come out and at least announce this and while they're at it, it sure wont hurt if they get rid of the insanity loot system of both WoE and VW. No one wants anymore Logs and Ores and other junks!

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I want the new story missions, zones etc. more than the fancy loot, (although it makes those Story missions etc a lot more doable) but there are people out there who play just for the loot. (and complain about the drop rates of such.)

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Originally Posted by Teraniku

So basically this whole thread can be translated into this:

"I'm not getting what I want fast enough because I think the Voidwatch / Abyssea / Einherjar drop system sucks! Give me what I want now SE!"

See there in lies the rub. Give you what you want too quickly, then you're bored because there's nothing to do and quit. If you don't get what you want because you think the events too hard or has a crappy drop system? then you rant and eventually /ragequit. Then after you get what you want, you don't do the event anymore and help everyone else get their stuff too. (Which we are all guilty of to some extent or the other). SE is trying to find a balance to keep everyone playing for as long as possible. Trying to find a balance that pleases everyone is nigh impossible.

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That's pure bs, sorry, but it is. I know a lot of people who are really unhappy and discouraged by the voidwatch reward system, and they've all done 75 cap endgame. The majority of them are veteran players and had several 75 jobs long before Abyssea was released. They're used to working hard and long to get what they want in this game.

The problem with voidwatch isn't the low drop rate alone. It's the low drop rate and the complete randomness of item distribution, which is completely out of our hands. At the very least - like others have pointed out - SE shouldn't have made it possible for the same person to get the same ra/ex body or weapon more than once. That is just a slap in the face to everybody else that wants the item and didn't get one, and a complete waste.

Blah, so yeah a good portion of the new ws are actually pretty good, just between all the times the dev team has pulled truely inane stunts and thier statement regarding balancing the newer ws's with level 60ish ones i just went off, also i never asked that the newer ws's be relic/empyrean killers.

guess i did rant quite a bit on VW but really that was just a part of the rant, my point is why did they bother with these forums, seems that just keeping with the occational vana fest would have just about the same effect on the games direction. either way i said i was ranting, just getting tired of seeing many jobs that have obvious holes in their capability and the dev team either ignoring the issue or giving new job abilities/spells that do nothing to improve.

so while im actually responding, when you say 1% drop rate is that per the individual or is that using the full alliance drop stats? considering there is no control over where the loot goes, if thats 1% across the alliance, that's 1%/18 (assuming a full alliance) chance that the drop actually goes to you. also my thought behind a points system wasnt persay buying the exact VW drop but more of a supplemental reward, the aggravating part is more the lack of getting anything out of it, logs/ores/random npc fodder doesnt count, though im guessing the whole turn in items to the mystery box goblin was thier idea of an alternative use for excess junk drops?

also some of you seem really but hurt about how old school endgame drops were handled, got back stabbed alot did you? oh well either way there doesn't seem to be a perfect way to handle loot, leave it in the hands of the players and corruption can set in.

ninja edit: why are people comparing ffxi and skyrim? offline and online games have completely different mechanics.

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Originally Posted by Koroma

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Alhanelem, you troll every single thread i read

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Just put him on your ignore list like the rest of the civilized world.

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