SE, Please Delete Scarlet Delirium

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Originally Posted by Tassidaru

SE will do whatever it wants, whenever it wants, regardless of the player opinions, wake up and smell the coffee.

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Except they do take player opinions into account. How is it that Bully went from cold to hot?

jp bitch's and moaned

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Originally Posted by Tassidaru

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1FZCDmdlK0

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This. So much.

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Originally Posted by Urteil

At least when this is all said and done.

And SE shoves their meaty manhood down all our throats.

Not sit idly by with a placid look of confusion, naivety and perplexity.
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this reminds me of a .gif porn clip of a girl having that exact thing happen to her shes looking around lost with this huge meat in her mouth makes me laugh every time.

I agree SE is going to make us eat this new ability, they dont care what drk's say, I can already see them in there offices


SE Employee 1: Hey hey, did you see the drk thread in general?
SE Employee 2: lol yeah I saw it
SE Employee 1: looks like we might've hit a nerve
SE Employee 2: Why you say that blus, schs, wars, and mnks tell us drk's fine.
SE Employee 1: lol but they really seem upset though
SE Employee 2: loldrk
SE Employee 1: lol yeah your right!
SE Employee 1&2: lol lol lol!

I honestly think there is a Dev that has a serious grudge against dark knight, maybe they spent weeks or months designing Absolute Virtue trying to make it the pinnacle of game design, thinking the only way us players could beat it is by following their ingenious strategy, only to find out a bunch of dark knights with kraken clubs zerged it down.

Since then they vowed to nerf us into obscurity by making mobs resist soul eater, resist dark based magic, nerf absorb-tp, mock us with tactical parry, arcane crest, occult acumen, and most recently Scarlet Delirium.

I know SE doesn't really hate us, but sure does feel like it.

-edit- Not to mention when we ask for stuff like a second stun they tell us no, yet BLU has how many stuns, and getting even more stuns in the update..

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Originally Posted by Aver

You playing on the test server? No? K then.

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Playing on the test server is intended to be used to put down other folks?

ITT: Emo players Emo'ing about Emo Knight and its Emo JA because they can't Emo cut themselves deep enough to make it Emo enough added damage.

Leave it to Dark Knights to sit around and b'awww all day about how much their job sucks. Life is so unfair, bro. Want to vent about it over some My Chemical Romance?

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

ITT: Emo players Emo'ing about Emo Knight and its Emo JA because they can't Emo cut themselves deep enough to make it Emo enough added damage.

Leave it to Dark Knights to sit around and b'awww all day about how much their job sucks. Life is so unfair, bro. Want to vent about it over some My Chemical Romance?

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Said the monk that probably cried along with the rest of the monk playerbase about not getting JSE when other jobs were handed a second set.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

ITT: Emo players Emo'ing about Emo Knight and its Emo JA because they can't Emo cut themselves deep enough to make it Emo enough added damage.

Leave it to Dark Knights to sit around and b'awww all day about how much their job sucks. Life is so unfair, bro. Want to vent about it over some My Chemical Romance?

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You're so witty.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Said the monk that probably cried along with the rest of the monk playerbase about not getting JSE when other jobs were handed a second set.

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Oh god I lol'd hard, because it's probably true.

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Originally Posted by Tassidaru

SE will do whatever it wants, whenever it wants, regardless of the player opinions, wake up and smell the coffee. And for those that don't remember the 'old' days watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1FZCDmdlK0

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Am I missing something? Where'd the DRK always misses come from? Never understood that, van't say I've ever seen it.

It was a combination of no accuracy food at the time & extremely high delay weapons - so you noticed it more, it had nothing to do with the job mechanics itself.

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Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher

Am I missing something? Where'd the DRK always misses come from? Never understood that, van't say I've ever seen it.

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I'm sure every old-school dark knight had the embarrassment of guillotine completely missing at least once in their career.

I like how the non drk players say the job is fine when we got so many nerfs in the recent history of the game(Hi to you haste cap, soul eater resistance and abs-tp nerf) Sure we the last resort duration update, but who can look me with a straight face and tell me this isn t how last resort should have been 10years ago?

Drk require a lot of support to actually be decent( aka some healing to maximize souleater) and in this day and age of lowmanning stuff drk is actually less desired than in the past( not even gonna talk about the lack of a crit ws cuz of lolabyssea) and now with the way scarlet delirium works in sure your party will be quite happy when you don t stun that ga spell or that nasty aoe tp move from a t4 mob in VW just so you can boost your dmg for one minute...

As much as i want to write up a detailed summary of dark vs other melee i shall refrain from it. I have figured out no matter what evidence supports how bad dark is off from other melee 2 pages later someone who has absolutely no game understanding tries to support the " dark gets more than X job " argument totally ignoring that most things are useless to dark or miniscule at best. If SE ever fixes dark i will be impressed because after years and years of this nonsense I am with my dark brothers/sisters in just deletion of everything dark related that is useless which is about 3/4 of dark arsenal.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Said the monk that probably cried along with the rest of the monk playerbase about not getting JSE when other jobs were handed a second set.

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I am so jealous of Plastron set. Obviously I'm just as bad as all of you, because you're all perfectly normal, right?

Nah. Cry more, Emo Knights. Not everyone feels the compulsive need to e-riot and b'awwwwwww all day long whenever they're not God Tier. Heck, Emo Knights b'awwwwwwwwww even when they're God Tier, because it's b'awwwwww'ing expensive/hard to become God Tier.

No matter what they do to Emo Knight, the Emo Playerbase is going to b'awwwwwww about it. So I'll ask again, bro. Want to vent about it over some My Chemical Romance?

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

I am so jealous of Plastron set. Obviously I'm just as bad as all of you, because you're all perfectly normal, right?

Nah. Cry more, Emo Knights. Not everyone feels the compulsive need to e-riot and b'awwwwwww all day long whenever they're not God Tier. Heck, Emo Knights b'awwwwwwwwww even when they're God Tier, because it's b'awwwwww'ing expensive/hard to become God Tier.

No matter what they do to Emo Knight, the Emo Playerbase is going to b'awwwwwww about it. So I'll ask again, bro. Want to vent about it over some My Chemical Romance?

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Blah blah blah you pretty much just reposted your previous reply to the thread...we get it all drk are emo and your soo cool and funny for pointing it out. kudos to you, you just won the internet

We are all just fine stating actual fact. It seems to me and the rest of the darks that play "other" melee it's apparent they are lacking by leaps and bounds. We rather be vocal about it so SE realizes we are tired of this behavior than live under a rock to not say anything.
You on the other hand call us out about this by stating we are all in our basements razor blade cutting ourselves because WAAAAAHABAMALACE hasn't came to fix our job. I want the job fixed and most darks are vocal about that. Nothing will be fixed if people like you who have overpowered updates by SE comparatively speaking to always say "HEY NOTHING IS WRONG WITH DARK". How about jumping off the bandwagon jobs SE adores and try dark out vs your mnk/war/sam/etc.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

I am so jealous of Plastron set. Obviously I'm just as bad as all of you, because you're all perfectly normal, right?

Nah. Cry more, Emo Knights. Not everyone feels the compulsive need to e-riot and b'awwwwwww all day long whenever they're not God Tier. Heck, Emo Knights b'awwwwwwwwww even when they're God Tier, because it's b'awwwwww'ing expensive/hard to become God Tier.

No matter what they do to Emo Knight, the Emo Playerbase is going to b'awwwwwww about it. So I'll ask again, bro. Want to vent about it over some My Chemical Romance?

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you're possibly one of the most annoying posters on the forums. I've been more of a observer and just thought i'd throw that out there.

seriously, go away or post more constructively. You're such a troll.

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Originally Posted by Ash

Blah blah blah you pretty much just reposted your previous reply to the thread...we get it all drk are emo and your soo cool and funny for pointing it out. kudos to you, you just won the internet

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I think I have to give this kid props for thinking it's still cool to call someone emo.

ive have one major question , outside of victory smite * monks would still be tanking with asuran or striking pummel if they had given it to us.*

what game breaking update has monk received. The answer isnt either of the 2 JA's ill tell you that much. last hint it deals directly with whats the fundamental biases of monk. All jobs got the same boost i just had a bigger effect on monk then others. take a guess because it seems like alot of the drk base has no clue about how little monk has really changed.

I love how many of you claim just because you don't have X job level'd you therefore have no idea about it. And to answer the question above -
I don't have MNK level'd and I've never said it's had any game breaking job abilities implemented, there's just a numerous amount of things added into Abyssea which makes MNK king, outside Abyssea all they have is a better WS if you have access to VS.

The reason MNK doesn't get much new is because MNK has ALWAYS been overpowered. They did nothing to MNK between the game coming out and it ascending to the heavens as a god of DDing in ToAU.

Players became smarter and the slow ones caught on to TP burning T-VT over SC/MB IT++.

Stupid players getting smarter was the biggest change to MNK.

Also, MNK (and BLU to an extent) continues to grow disproportionately stronger with each level cap raise due to the hth formula (Blue Magic Skill for BLUs obviously).

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Originally Posted by Gokku

ive have one major question , outside of victory smite * monks would still be tanking with asuran or striking pummel if they had given it to us.*

what game breaking update has monk received. The answer isnt either of the 2 JA's ill tell you that much. last hint it deals directly with whats the fundamental biases of monk. All jobs got the same boost i just had a bigger effect on monk then others. take a guess because it seems like alot of the drk base has no clue about how little monk has really changed.

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Why is this thread derailing into a "what a mnk got/need" thread?

my point is drks are screaming about how unfair things are and ow much it needs fixing and pointing to other jobs with 0 understanding of what the difference really is. as far as drks go there DPS is fine, what you gys really need is reworked WS's either mods need to be not so pants on head retarded for guillotine and ftp upped to 1.0 or 1.25 or cross reaper needs to be a crit WS. Those 2 small changes would have such a huge effect on drk. Drks should take this ability give SE a chance to enhance it through gear or updates while demanding fixes to what they already have.


same for Insurgency if it had a 1.0 1.5 2.0 mod and chance to crit instead drks would cream there pants. then you would have some drks mad about how they need nysle isle floor 100 * of course this would all hit 1 week after the update that changes nysle from 75 content to 99 content making it hard again*

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Originally Posted by Return1

The reason MNK doesn't get much new is because MNK has ALWAYS been overpowered. They did nothing to MNK between the game coming out and it ascending to the heavens as a god of DDing in ToAU.

Players became smarter and the slow ones caught on to TP burning T-VT over SC/MB IT++.

Stupid players getting smarter was the biggest change to MNK.

Also, MNK (and BLU to an extent) continues to grow disproportionately stronger with each level cap raise due to the hth formula (Blue Magic Skill for BLUs obviously).

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my god someone does understand!

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Originally Posted by Gokku

my god someone does understand!

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Then why have you been comparing what mnk got need to drk since you started posting in this thread?

DRK isn't in desperate need of anything but Crit WSes. I'm telling you, if you made all physical WSes capable of critical attacks and left Crit varies with TP with their TP = bigger crit rate boost, DRK would be back in demand, Melee RDMs and SAMs would be happier, RNG would catch up a bit, and Qeusted WSes in general won't suck so damn much.

That said. SD sucks ass. It's like a dickslap to the face more than an improvement at this point. The change they made to it since its implementation to the test server also makes the devs look like total retards, even moreso than suggesting it sucks because people don't know how to use it instead of it just being awful currently.

Right now it's a situational tanking ability and that's all.

Don't mention WS, now SE will create an ability that allow WS to Crit based on how much damage we've dealt with elemental magic.

Make it happen SE. You know you want to.

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Originally Posted by Ash

Then why have you been comparing what mnk got need to drk since you started posting in this thread?

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to show that 1 shitty ja * monk got footowrk* isnt the end of the world that upping old school stuff is what dark really needs.
there have been plenty of things SE has done that people over reacted to *thf got its TH and tripple VIP passes handed to rng and dnc,* but its not the end of the world. if the JA is shit just dont use it.

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Originally Posted by Gokku

to show that 1 shitty ja * monk got footowrk* isnt the end of the world that upping old school stuff is what dark really needs.
there have been plenty of things SE has done that people over reacted to *thf got its TH and tripple VIP passes handed to rng and dnc,* but its not the end of the world. if the JA is shit just dont use it.

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And this is why this thread is about drk asking s-e not to implement this crappy ability and work on other areas where we are lacking.

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Originally Posted by Gokku

my point is drks are screaming about how unfair things are and ow much it needs fixing and pointing to other jobs with 0 understanding of what the difference really is. as far as drks go there DPS is fine, what you gys really need is reworked WS's either mods need to be not so pants on head retarded for guillotine and ftp upped to 1.0 or 1.25 or cross reaper needs to be a crit WS. Those 2 small changes would have such a huge effect on drk. Drks should take this ability give SE a chance to enhance it through gear or updates while demanding fixes to what they already have.


same for Insurgency if it had a 1.0 1.5 2.0 mod and chance to crit instead drks would cream there pants. then you would have some drks mad about how they need nysle isle floor 100 * of course this would all hit 1 week after the update that changes nysle from 75 content to 99 content making it hard again*

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So we need to have this crammed down our throats to be implemented where we totally ignore party dynamics about saving our party/alliance for a 1 shot boost at the proper moment and timing to do "slightly" more damage. That makes no damn sense at all and as many other said it is stupid.

theres a term people use for that its called "situational" the ja is shitty in MOST situations but im sure with a little effort youll find times when that aga wont be the end of days and i can just stun the next one. Its really no less suicidal then the old drks that used to pop all there JAs souleater 300% ws a mob and ask why they died.

2003-September2011 - Drain II+Dread Spikes(post patches)+Souleater+Last Resort+WS+Stun+Meditate+WS=death

September2011 - Our JA's hurt party/alliance play

I'm not saying DRK isn't a shitty DD, because it is. I would argue it definitely has its uses, because it does. However, this argument is presented in a fairly asinine manner.

I have been playing this game since the date of NA release and I will always say that Dark Knight has always been the "Dark Horse" of ffxi. Yes, back in the day they had their uses to Kraken Club Souleater Dynamis Lord or any other "difficult" HNM but the fact of the matter is their usefulness has always been limited. Instead of raging there are completely valid ways of suggesting things to the developers. Sure they may get ignored, however, you have done your part and you can be justified in so.

Can't agree with this thread more. Seriously SE, why is it so hard to give us any descent updates? It took years to fix last resort, YEARS! I love my job, I don't think its right that I need to switch to "NIN" to be able to actually be a damage dealer. you know what most darks play in battle? The stunner. That's all we get to do is stun. Drain sucks, most mobs resist it to a high degree, our DOT is worthless compared to a nin. Were supposed to sacrifice so much to gain so little. Why won't you give us updates we need, instead of just throwing us crap. Tactical Parry? Really?

Giving DRK a crit WS isn't going to fix anything! seriously! All you lot think/talk about is Abyssea this, Abyssea that, and guess what? Giving DRK a crit WS isn't going to suddenly make it a desirable job for Abyssea, trust me.

PUP has an awesome crit WS in Strining Pummel and how many PUP's do you see in Abyssea?! Now surely everyone here knows the reason why there aren't any PUP's in your groups.

PUP has an awesomer WS called Victory Smite, but MNK gets that too.

What point are you making?