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blu is probably still gimped against NM's but at least Heavy Strike is awesome on regular mobs. it beats out QC for Damage/cost especially in abyssea with crit mods for it and CDC. and we are even further from needing a refresh atma (always good).

i mean we always needed /thf to be effective on NM's at 75, did you really expect it to change? at least people bring Blu to everything since it can do anything if needed (i've finished off VW nms etc when they killed the tank and started on mages. or tanked etc).

we just got a -15% dt spell, already had an 8shadow blink spell (almost instant cast), and already had great tanking spells; blu will still be badass this update.

The duration, cost, and mechanics (Multiplication as opposed to addition) of barrier tusk stinks and unless I'm getting a ton of inventory on spell points (or a good JT), it's probably not worth setting. Yes, I expected change going from 75 to 99, but I guess that was expecting too much of 24 levels. We already rock regular mobs and most won't demand the excess damage produced by Heavy Strike.

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Originally Posted by Tashan

You guys are disagreeing with Daniel_Hatcher, but what he's saying is true.

It's not neccesarily how it SHOULD be, but it is how it is.

A large part of it isn't even SE's fault. It's ours. We're always trying to be better and more efficient at what we're doing and critically analyse every last detail in this game to the point of arguement. Or we read other peoples testimonies, and just take the lazy route and copy it.

LV75 Merit Parties - No Room for Black Mages.
Pre-Easy Mode Sky - SAM SAM SAM SAM
Abyssea - Boy, sure is a long time since I've seen a Dragoon.

The only thing with Voidwatch is in the past I've always managed to find a way into completing most content with just BLU. However, it doesn't sound likely with VW.

Which tbh I'm not even sure I'm too bothered by it. I just hope upgrading Almace doesn't have to lead me towards it.

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Unfortunately when Voidwatch counts as about 50-75% of the new content we're getting, it starts to become an issue. I mean really, of all the things to nerf a spell with, I'd say accuracy loss is probably one of the most rage inducing to me at least. I'm pretty sure any long time player of FFXI has missed enough swings, weaponskills, full resist spells, target out of range lose all your tp to last a few lifetimes.

SE wants BLU to be a jack of all trades. What they don't realize is, the playerbase isn't completely fucktarded, so they bring the jobs with actual proficiency in the roles that BLU can fill rather than settling for 60% maximum efficiency. Give BLU a role that it can perform effectively, and leave the rest as it is: filler, support for those that can actually do the role that we're meant to be able to do but perform ineffectively at.

I think we've gotten spoiled with the last few updates that actually had things we needed and wanted.

Since this update only has one thing we need and want (a spell we can use against HNMs), I think we should just count ourselves lucky.

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Originally Posted by Demonofhunger

I think we've gotten spoiled with the last few updates that actually had things we needed and wanted.

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This entirely.

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Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher

This entirely.

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Same here. Even without some godly spells for BLU I can still gank the mobs for all I'm worth. And really, what more do we need?

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Originally Posted by Demonofhunger

I Since this update only has one thing we need and want (a spell we can use against HNMs), I think we should just count ourselves lucky.

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Except for one flaw: we can't use it against HNMs because of the piss poor accuracy.

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Originally Posted by Defiledsickness

blu is probably still gimped against NM's but at least Heavy Strike is awesome on regular mobs. it beats out QC for Damage/cost especially in abyssea with crit mods for it and CDC. and we are even further from needing a refresh atma (always good).

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That's one of my points, though. We already do very well against normal monsters. We can spam Delta Thrust, we can use CA-->Savage Blade--->Goblin Rush on every other or every third mob and, if fighting multiple monsters, finish one off with BT while getting the next prepared for combat.

There's a kind of thought process that SE should be going through when releasing new BLU spells and when applied to Heavy Strike would look something like:

Who's the target of the spell? Your opponent.

Physical or magical? Physical.

Does it have additional effects? No.

Is it conal or AoE? No, neither.

Any unqiue mods or properties? Well, it's got a 75% STR mod and it autocrits.

Ok, so by this point we've firmly established that this spell is for our physical DD role. However, this is where the reasoning breaks down a bit. We already do very well against normal monsters, so obviously it shouldn't be made for them.

What would you use it on/when would you use it? With those mods, it'd be perfect on high level NMs. Excellent, that's exactly what I want to see, a spell that fills a niche that's missing from one of our roles. But, wait, now we're doing too much damage to regular monsters, so reduce it's accuracy. A lot.

So, now we have a spell that was designed to be used on high level NM's but with accuracy so bad, it can't land reliably on an NM designed for the 90 cap at level 95 and using sushi. I understand wanting to limit the damage done to regular monsters for the sake of game balance as well as balance between our other physical spells but I feel reducing accuracy was the wrong way to do it.

As a fix, I propose that the accuracy of Heavy Strike should be commensurate with the target's level. The higher the target's level, the greater it's innate accuracy. This way, it can still maintain it's niche function while still keeping things on an even footing with the other jobs as well as our other physical DD spells.

What do you other BLU's think?

I don't even see why it's necessary to have the acc gimped on even normal mobs. Any DD worth their salt will have a higher weaponskill frequency than once every 30 seconds, and will certainly be doing the same and often more damage than Heavy Strike (without CA/EFF).

Can't think of any other reason why they would gimp it aside from other jobs b***chin'.

they looked at it as; "high dmg, low mp cost... ok give it low accuracy". idk what was said on the JP forums that made them lower the acc further, but w/e the case we still dont know how it will perform against NM's yet. we have lower level spells that say "crit varies with TP" so maybe one of those can be useful on NM's.

even tho i dont think we got screwed this update, if they dont pick it up from 95-99 i will be really upset.

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Originally Posted by Defiledsickness

they looked at it as; "high dmg, low mp cost... ok give it low accuracy". idk what was said on the JP forums that made them lower the acc further, but w/e the case we still dont know how it will perform against NM's yet. we have lower level spells that say "crit varies with TP" so maybe one of those can be useful on NM's.

even tho i dont think we got screwed this update, if they dont pick it up from 95-99 i will be really upset.

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No, we do know how it will work on NMs.

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Originally Posted by Valefor.Prothescar

Finally got around to testing Heavy Strike on Hahava, and it's kind of bittersweet. Was able to squeeze in 4-5 casts per pop between Fanatic's and landed Sudden Lunges (more below).

In STR gear with Sole Sushi, I was having an astoundingly hard time landing the spell at all, when it did hit it hit for 300~500. On the 4th or 5th run I decided to try TP gear for the extra ACC, and it made a large difference (obviously); landed far more casts, but the damage obviously suffered. CA+Efflux damage was pretty nice considering the mob, but I didn't get a large sample size on that since I didn't feel like running back 50+ times.

A sample of the damage:
No CA:
383
464
465
333
479

CA:
980
1206



Overall the shitawful accuracy had given me the overwhelming urge to strangle badgers. Would seem that my previous premonitions were wrong and the ACC is pretty damn bad. :\

For comparison, Sudden Lunge and Vanity Dive had more casts and landed almost constantly in STR gear.

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As I said in another thread, I think all BLU's at least in the forums, should not use the new spells at all, and tell as many people as possible and hopefully SE notices that nobody is using it. I mean if they are going to give us shit spells, why not let them know just how worthless and useless they are.

That hasn't made them rework any of our multitude of other hideously useless spells, so in the end it would only amount to an immature way of saying we didn't get the toys we wanted. :\ Just have to make the best of what we get.

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As a fix, I propose that the accuracy of Heavy Strike should be commensurate with the target's level. The higher the target's level, the greater it's innate accuracy. This way, it can still maintain it's niche function while still keeping things on an even footing with the other jobs as well as our other physical DD spells.

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That's an interesting idea, I wish the HNM spells would work that way at least. I think it could be difficult though.

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Originally Posted by Mefuki

As a fix, I propose that the accuracy of Heavy Strike should be commensurate with the target's level. The higher the target's level, the greater it's innate accuracy. This way, it can still maintain it's niche function while still keeping things on an even footing with the other jobs as well as our other physical DD spells.

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This is an interesting idea. I wonder hard it would be to implement, though. Until 75+, almost none of our spells were very unique so I'm skeptical of how much time the team can invest on each individual spell.

Part of me is just glad that we're finally getting unique stuff instead of the same five spells updated for the next ten levels, but a far greater part wishes the unique stuff could help with the "spell attack is rubbish against anything with a funny name" issue that's been present since day one.