Voidwatch Drop Rates/Loot Distribution

Hey, Fazheluo Radiant Mail is a great WS piece.

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Originally Posted by Mordanthos

Going for the gear is all fine and dandy, but even those chest pieces are complete garbage anyways. Nothing in Voidwatch can replace Aby gear yet at phase 1, so why are you even worried about the drops to begin with. Nothing in it is game breaking in any way. I do it because i like how fricken hard it is, and i find myself getting the gear randomly when im least expecting it.

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Actually, the body pieces at 95 are AMAZING... Let me just leave these here...

From BG, who took it from FFXIAH:
Spoiler alert.

"Azteca Body 2 eff" (The next Mextli)
[Body] All Races
DEF:51 STR+13 DEX+13 Accuracy+10 Attack+10 Double Attack +2%
Sphere: Haste +2%
Set: Triple Attack +3%
Lv.95 MNK/THF/BST/RNG/NIN/BLU/COR/PUP/DNC

"Egypt Body 2 eff" (The next Anhur, this ones AMAZING)
[Body] All Races
DEF:51 MND+17 "Cure" potency +15% "Cure" Casting Time -15% "Magic Defense Bonus" +7
Sphere: Enhances "Fast Cast"
Set: HP+120 MP+120
Lv.95 WHM/BLM/BRD/SMN/PUP(?)/SCH

"China Body 2 eff" (The next Fazheluo, um this is broken beyond belief. Hello DD PLD.)
[Body] All Races
DEF:70 VIT+17 Physical Damage taken -8% Converts 14% of physical damage taken to TP(WTF AMAZING!)
Sphere: Double Attack +2%
Set: Haste +8%
Lv.95 WAR/PLD/DRK/BST/SAM/DRG

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Originally Posted by Leonlionheart

Actually, the body pieces at 95 are AMAZING... Let me just leave these here...

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I'm not particularly overwhelmed by the first, 2nd and 3rd look really nice indeed instead :O
I want that curing body for mah SCH :( Don't think I would fulltime it, but for curing macros (and sskin?) I'd definitely use it for sure, ooooooh if I would :D

PLD didn't block with shield? Takes ~300 damage in one hit?

BOOM 42 ****ING TP

yeah I'm not a PLD but it's freaking awesome lol

Your China+2 jobs are wrong it seems if it follows the Fazheluo.

WAR/SAM/DRK/PLD/DRG/BST I assume are the true classes on it?

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Originally Posted by Sparthos

Your China+2 jobs are wrong it seems if it follows the Fazheluo.

WAR/SAM/DRK/PLD/DRG/BST I assume are the true classes on it?

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Void watch is in serious danger of being a failure

The fights are fun yet chalenging and in my opinon the must fun event at the moment, yet everybody does events for the drops I have done all the paths 8 times and the tier 4 monsters multiple times with capped lights and I have yet to get a single void watch specific drop.
Acording to wiki drop rates the tier 4 bodies have a drop rate of 0.2% which i can belive, my LS has only had 1 body drop (to some body who cant even use it) and alot of the new equipment comes from void watch.
To atually get a set of the armor to get the set bonuses someone would have to do hundreds of void watch and be very lucky at that which requires 18 people to help you get them.
Unless the drop rate is improved or the tresure system changed people will grow tired of doing void watch for nothing but rubbish you npc.

Please alter the drop rates or loot system I enjoy void watch but most people will just quit doing void watch I am not going to do the same fight hundreds of times and possably still not get what i was after.

I'll agree the rates need to be changed or a point system where you can track your progress needs to be conceived.

Even if the piece costs hundreds of thousands, at least you can track it.

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Originally Posted by Leonlionheart

Spoiler alert.

"Azteca Body 2 eff" (The next Mextli)
[Body] All Races
DEF:51 STR+13 DEX+13 Accuracy+10 Attack+10 Double Attack +2%
Sphere: Haste +2%
Set: Triple Attack +3%
Lv.95 MNK/THF/BST/RNG/NIN/BLU/COR/PUP/DNC

"Egypt Body 2 eff" (The next Anhur, this ones AMAZING)
[Body] All Races
DEF:51 MND+17 "Cure" potency +15% "Cure" Casting Time -15% "Magic Defense Bonus" +7
Sphere: Enhances "Fast Cast"
Set: HP+120 MP+120
Lv.95 WHM/BLM/BRD/SMN/PUP(?)/SCH

"China Body 2 eff" (The next Fazheluo, um this is broken beyond belief. Hello DD PLD.)
[Body] All Races
DEF:70 VIT+17 Physical Damage taken -8% Converts 14% of physical damage taken to TP(WTF AMAZING!)
Sphere: Double Attack +2%
Set: Haste +8%
Lv.95 WAR/PLD/DRK/BST/SAM/DRG

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They're amazing in that every single job on those pieces are on there except STILL NO RED MAGE. I would be hopeful to see it on even ONE of those pieces.

WHY, SQUARE?

It could be a typo, RDM actually does get Anhur robe.

Huh, so it seems >_>;

I can be a forgetful loon sometimes.

Still though, it would be nice to see RDM on mextli harness if they intend to push RDM into a Melee direction.

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Originally Posted by Quetzacoatl

Huh, so it seems >_>;

I can be a forgetful loon sometimes.

Still though, it would be nice to see RDM on mextli harness if they intend to push RDM into a Melee direction.

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...which they blatantly do not intend to do.

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Originally Posted by Quetzacoatl

Huh, so it seems >_>;

I can be a forgetful loon sometimes.

Still though, it would be nice to see RDM on mextli harness if they intend to push RDM into a Melee direction.

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You mean push RDM into a role of complete worthlessness and no point? Yeah cool, I'll start playing SCH as my main again.

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Tonight we did Celaeno 9 times and not one of our BRDs obtained a Langeleik (Harp). Wanna know who got a Langeleik? All the damage dealers got them.

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Shoulda came DD.

I keep telling people who I talk to about this topic in game to come post. They never do.

But hear me SE, I know tons of people who are VERY VERY dissatisfied with this current system; it needs some tweaking.

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Originally Posted by Shiyo

You mean push RDM into a role of complete worthlessness and no point? Yeah cool, I'll start playing SCH as my main again.

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So you're playing a worthless job in favor of another worthless job? Cool story, is there a sequel? Oh wait, you play DNC, another worthless job. Man, when are you going to come out with a second sequel!? I can't keep up.

You can still sell VW drops, but its more of a hassle. Have someone pay you up front, let them into ally, and if they show the item didnt drop, refund em.

I'm aware SE made VW like it is to combat people selling gear (protip, lots of non RMT do it as well), they tried with salvage (instanced event, potential item buyer would have to attend runs since theres no way to wait on the outside without entering), they tried with Einherjar (once you leave the chamber, you lose your treasure pool, so no outside lotters can join up)...and theyre trying with this. IMO its a good effort, since its a LOT harder to sell gear this way, but as I said, not impossible...and the drawback is there is gear that is dropping to people who dont want/have no use for it.

I dont see why SE just didnt go with a points system for T4 NM's if their intention was to combat selling gear. Give all the bosses their own points system, since theyre the only one with r/e loot that people would care for, build up your red/blue lights for the credits, and then let the people who want the item be able to get them. It's already disheartening and very discouraging to go 0/100 on a drop (Salvage was notorious for upsetting people), but to then hear how someones mule has gotten two when they cant even use it really makes people not even want to participate in content.

Just one nitpick: You pay after you get your drop, not before you get your drop and get refunded if it doesn't.

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Originally Posted by Quetzacoatl

Just one nitpick: You pay after you get your drop, not before you get your drop and get refunded if it doesn't.

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That's the best way to screw someone over, don't do that.

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Originally Posted by Leonlionheart

That's the best way to screw someone over, don't do that.

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Really? Because my server has an LS that could easily take your money and warp out even if you don't get a drop without refunding you. Just like before the Dynamis update, if they will team up with you to do Dynamis-Beaucedine win, they'll just come and MPK you with the Dragons instead, as long as they get the dynamis currency they need for their relics.

Hint: it starts with an "E."

Well not from the LS's point of view. You should always get the gil before you let them lot, etc, even if it doesn't drop.

If a LS screws you over, shout in PJ till someone agrees with you and they won't get anymore business. Bad way to run a merc LS if your ripping people off commonly.

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Originally Posted by Quetzacoatl

Really? Because my server has an LS that could easily take your money and warp out even if you don't get a drop without refunding you.

Hint: it starts with an "E."

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Selling items as a linkshell is the same as selling anything as anything. You make better money from repeat business than from ripping off one or two people. Since it's generally all or nothing when it comes to fleecing someone on FFXI, word-of-mouth travels pretty fast.

I don't doubt it would happen sometimes, but from a business perspective, it doesn't seem like a smart move.

Ripping off a group as an individual, however, has far fewer pitfalls.

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Originally Posted by Leonlionheart

Well not from the LS's point of view. You should always get the gil before you let them lot, etc, even if it doesn't drop.

If a LS screws you over, shout in PJ till someone agrees with you and they won't get anymore business. Bad way to run a merc LS if your ripping people off commonly.

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That would be the normal case with most merc linkshells, yes, I can see that. What if the linkshell was overly powerful and skilled enough to do it just because they can? Would the GMs be able to do anything about it?

If you haven't guessed already, I'm referring to Exodus

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Originally Posted by Quetzacoatl

That would be the normal case with most merc linkshells, yes, I can see that. What if the linkshell was overly powerful and skilled enough to do it just because they can? Would the GMs be able to do anything about it?

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GM's wouldn't, no. It's in the player's hands.

Yeah, that's what I mean. Would GMs do anything about it even if it was brought to their attention by a player? If so, they'd just RMT another character into the LS and keep going. :x

But in either case, what would the purpose of getting the money first before popping provide? It just seems like a trap card for Linkshells that don't always keep their word. You could easily take the gil, pop the NM, get no drop, then just do a mass teleport afterwards looking at it this way.

Obviously there are some scum, but most merc ls's are worth it.

LosNoobs on Asura comes to mind of a super successful merc ls. Whatever the hell Xeth does too; since he's made like 2 relics in 3 days or some shit