Click & Buy charges "international processing fee"!

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Originally Posted by RAIST

Think Alhanelem statement was directed at Kimble's post stating our posts about C&B just placing a pending charge on account was incorrect. Alhanelem was an early adopter of C&B, and thus went through the process prior to them changing their procedures. Originally, they were authorize and hold transactions, but later started shifting to full transactions as more people started reporting on it here.

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I don't know what their previous procedures used to be, I opened my C&B account on July 28th, and verified it 2 days later. Then it clearly stated I would be charged 2 amounts which I had to input on the verification page. You will be charged this when verifying the account, it won't show as pending or w/e, it won't be reversed, but it will be credited your C&B account. No other fees have been charged by C&B. Whether my bank will charge me any form of international transaction fee, remains to be seen.

Then again, I'm EU, and who knows, EUs and NAs might be treated differently by C&B. :/

Who cares what it used to be really. Im just saying what it is now (because that's where most of the issues are coming from) If you agree to let them charge your account twice and then put those charges into your account after you confirm it, You cant sit there and bitch and moan when they do it.

Seriously Raist, you just need to stop on this point. You seem to have a problem where you have to be 100% correct all the time and can't even admit in this one instance, you are wrong.

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Originally Posted by Kimble

Who cares what it used to be really. Im just saying what it is now (because that's where most of the issues are coming from) If you agree to let them charge your account twice and then put those charges into your account after you confirm it, You cant sit there and bitch and moan when they do it.

Seriously Raist, you just need to stop on this point. You seem to have a problem where you have to be 100% correct all the time and can't even admit in this one instance, you are wrong.

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This a thousand times over

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Originally Posted by Kimble

Seriously Raist, you just need to stop on this point. You seem to have a problem where you have to be 100% correct all the time and can't even admit in this one instance, you are wrong.

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It's not about me being correct, it's about making sure things are accurate. Some things weren't accurately stated about how it was possible to hold a pending charge without it actually going through, and how C&B used to do it in the past. It's interesting to note I don't see you jumping on another poster that gave evidence that this in fact is the way C&B used to do it--especially as that poster also regularly posts details to try to correct inaccurate statements.

Once those points about the pending charges were clarified, I considered the matter closed--points were challenged, and shown to be accurate. I only made one more post about it as it appeared someone may not have caught what Alhanelem's post may have meant to clarify--and that included what was basically a recap of the corrected issues that had been under debate.

At least we acknowledged things are being done differently now and the charges are actually going thorugh--never even challenged that. It looks more like you may be the one not willing to acknlowedge you may have been mistaken on facts that you challenged, and are just refusing to let it go.

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Originally Posted by RAIST

It's not about me being correct, it's about making sure things are accurate. Some things weren't accurately stated about how it was possible to hold a pending charge without it actually going through, and how C&B used to do it in the past. It's interesting to note I don't see you jumping on another poster that gave evidence that this in fact is the way C&B used to do it--especially as that poster also regularly posts details to try to correct inaccurate statements.

Once those points about the pending charges were clarified, I considered the matter closed--points were challenged, and shown to be accurate. I only made one more post about it as it appeared someone may not have caught what Alhanelem's post may have meant to clarify--and that included what was basically a recap of the corrected issues that had been under debate.

At least we acknowledged things are being done differently now and the charges are actually going thorugh--never even challenged that. It looks more like you may be the one not willing to acknlowedge you may have been mistaken on facts that you challenged, and are just refusing to let it go.

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No, I just don't care because it doesnt matter how they might have used to do things because they way they are doing it now is what people are agreeing to and then they cry about getting charged when they agreed to it. Then they cry about they money not going back to their card when it said it wouldnt.

just use the other Method provided instead of c&b, if thats really a issue. i mean really how hard is this lol

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Originally Posted by zataz

just use the other Method provided instead of c&b, if thats really a issue. i mean really how hard is this lol

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All this has shown me is how things won't change because some people are okay with anything.

This could be as easy as eating a damn apple, and it is not the point.

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Originally Posted by Sp1cyryan

All this has shown me is how things won't change because some people are okay with anything.

This could be as easy as eating a damn apple, and it is not the point.

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Don't lose hope, not everyone is a sheep.

SquareEnix CEO: So, Mr. C&B, what has brought us to this business meeting today?

Mr. C&B: Well, today I present you with a financial opportunity. Currently you accept payments directly through Playonline from your customers. They pay a flat rate, while you're left taking the cut for accepting fees from all over the world through your current payment gateway. Am I right?

SquareEnix CEO: Well, the fees are minimal, but yes you're right.

Mr. C&B: What would you say if I told you we can create a dummy company that takes the blame off you and reverses all those headaches and fees back to the customer with an ass backwards terms of service while you're profits increase by a noticeable percentage each month? The customers will pay the fees and taxes you've been paying for years. Not enough to stop paying, just enough to make you more money.

SquareEnix CEO: Wow! I can't believe I didn't think of that myself. All I have to do is pay you .05 cents per account per month? Well shit Mr. C&B I'll have our web developer's make up a page this week and let everyone know they have no choice but to switch over. For many, this game is one of the best parts of their lives, what with all the friendships and and shitty real lives. There's no way we'll lose business over nickles and dimes. We sure are going to make a killing.


AND THAT FOLKS IS THE WORLD WE LIVE IN TODAY! is there really anything else to discuss?

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Originally Posted by zataz

just use the other Method provided instead of c&b, if thats really a issue. i mean really how hard is this lol

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Next thing you know, SE will only accept personal checks and walk-in payment. Will you be saying the same thing if this really happens?

Hey, you never know, this is SE we are dealing with. :o

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Originally Posted by Niyariko

Next thing you know, SE will only accept personal checks and walk-in payment. Will you be saying the same thing if this really happens?

Hey, you never know, this is SE we are dealing with. :o

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Trends are cyclic, everything that's old is new again, etc.

But hey, you could pay for FFXI while getting your groceries at the same time.

I was charged this and I use PayPal/crysta, so I assume it wasn't CnB's fault on this one.

You guys have it easy, complaining about a few cents of charge...
This is what I paid for 5000 yen for buying Crysta:

Got charged this much on Pay Pal:

Total: ¥5.650 JPY

SutoCorp then asked me for scans of personal documents and proof that my physical address matches the address I filled in the account. -_-;

The 650 yen fee translates into 8.50USD FYI.

Then I received an code to transfer the 5000 yen to an Webmoney.jp account and from that I was able to fund my game account.

This means if someone were supposed to be pissed, that would be me and all the other people playing with japanese copies of FFXI but being outside of Japan.

They're blocking any kind of international transactions on their internal billing system because apparently they were not satisfied with having to pay for the money brokers money conversion themselves. :mad:

In the end I'll be paying that 8.5 USD of fee every three months. :(

At least I'm back into the game ... :p